Why I don't believe the story of the Great Flood...

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Re: Why I don't believe the story of the Great Flood...

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Themis wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:How do they know it isn't God?


HuH? You come up with the weirdest questions that have nothing to do with the topic. Scientists don't say anything about God. Things like dark matter or the big bang are not really theories about God existing or not. There is no evidence to even bring up the question of God's existence. The problem may be accepting the hard science behind some of these theories shows your beliefs in a YEC incorrect. It doesn't really have anything to do with God/Gods/Goddesses existing or not.

Why is my question wierd? Think about it. These scientists (you are always speaking of) accept dark matter. They know it exists because they note how such interacts with the universe, and yet they cannot fathom God who interacts with the universe and holds it all together with His will. Yet they make up the term "dark matter"for this something they cannot see, smell, measure, taste, or understand.
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LittleNipper wrote:Why is my question wierd?


Probably becuase you say the dumbest things that really say nothing and have nothing to do with the discussion.

Think about it. These scientists (you are always speaking of) accept dark matter. They know it exists because they note how such interacts with the universe,


So they see evidence that leads them to conclude matter that is not being detected in other ways. Not sure what your problem is.

and yet they cannot fathom God who interacts with the universe and holds it all together with His will.


Keep in mind many scientists believe in many different God's, but why should they come up with God when they see no evidence to even bring up God.

Yet they make up the term "dark matter"for this something they cannot see, smell, measure, taste, or understand.


This would be incorrect. They would not even know to make up the term without some kind of evidence. Now there is no evidence regarding God here, so they have no reason to bring up God since it would not help them to understand what they are seeing. The same can be said for Santa Clause, so why don't you invoke his name?
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Themis wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Why is my question wierd?


Probably becuase you say the dumbest things that really say nothing and have nothing to do with the discussion.

Think about it. These scientists (you are always speaking of) accept dark matter. They know it exists because they note how such interacts with the universe,


So they see evidence that leads them to conclude matter that is not being detected in other ways. Not sure what your problem is.

and yet they cannot fathom God who interacts with the universe and holds it all together with His will.


Keep in mind many scientists believe in many different God's, but why should they come up with God when they see no evidence to even bring up God.

Yet they make up the term "dark matter"for this something they cannot see, smell, measure, taste, or understand.


This would be incorrect. They would not even know to make up the term without some kind of evidence. Now there is no evidence regarding God here, so they have no reason to bring up God since it would not help them to understand what they are seeing. The same can be said for Santa Clause, so why don't you invoke his name?

You walk with blinders on and have no clue how everything hinges together--- particularly when one speaks of God, the Bible and the Flood. So some scientists see no matter but have to believe that what is causing the effects is a "matter" and cannot be anything else. I know what your problem is but I will keep it to myself ---- however, your example of Santa is a telling symptom of a deeper misunderstanding of archeology and historic documentation in general.
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Every time Little Nipper and Sub-Genius post I'm reminded of this website:

http://www.normalbobsmith.com/thesheeples/

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Re: Why I don't believe the story of the Great Flood...

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LittleNipper wrote:You walk with blinders on and have no clue how everything hinges together---


Yet we cannot get a rational thought from you on this.

So some scientists see no matter but have to believe that what is causing the effects is a "matter" and cannot be anything else.


And what are they supposed to think it is and what evidence do you have for it.

I know what your problem is but I will keep it to myself ---- however, your example of Santa is a telling simptom of deeper misunderstanding of archeology and historic documentation in general.


Reality is you live in a fantasy land so you really cannot deal with the insurmountable problems with a global flood, which is why you will only assert you think you know my problem. The Santa example was only to try and communicate why scientists don't bring up God for the same reasons they don't bring up Santa.
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Themis wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:You walk with blinders on and have no clue how everything hinges together---


Yet we cannot get a rational thought from you on this.

So some scientists see no matter but have to believe that what is causing the effects is a "matter" and cannot be anything else.


And what are they supposed to think it is and what evidence do you have for it.

I know what your problem is but I will keep it to myself ---- however, your example of Santa is a telling symptom of a deeper misunderstanding of archeology and historic documentation in general.


Reality is you live in a fantasy land so you really cannot deal with the insurmountable problems with a global flood, which is why you will only assert you think you know my problem. The Santa example was only to try and communicate why scientists don't bring up God for the same reasons they don't bring up Santa.

You can't accept a God bigger than you are.
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LittleNipper wrote:You can't accept a God bigger than you are.


Again you say nothing. Is it so hard to understand that even in at a Christian university physics class they are not going to bring up God as part of teaching you about Gravity. You seem like you get upset if people don't use God in every sentence.
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Themis wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:You can't accept a God bigger than you are.


Again you say nothing. Is it so hard to understand that even in at a Christian university physics class they are not going to bring up God as part of teaching you about Gravity. You seem like you get upset if people don't use God in every sentence.

Obviously, you've never been to Philadelphia Biblical University, Bob Jones University, and Liberty Baptist University. And the point is not that God is not sometimes mentioned, but that there are education institutions that NEVER mention God, unless as a byword on the lips of a disgruntled student or faculty member...
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LittleNipper wrote:Obviously, you've never been to Philadelphia Biblical University, Bob Jones University, and Liberty Baptist University. And the point is not that God is not sometimes mentioned, but that there are education institutions that NEVER mention God, unless as a byword on the lips of a disgruntled student or faculty member...


Have you been to Philadelphia Biblical University, Bob Jones University, and Liberty Baptist University?

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Re: Why I don't believe the story of the Great Flood...

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LittleNipper wrote:And the point is not that God is not sometimes mentioned, but that there are education institutions that NEVER mention God, unless as a byword on the lips of a disgruntled student or faculty member...


Why do they need to in any science class?
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