Mormon God is more just our most immediate forerunner. Ref. The King Follett Sermon. He may have organized earth and then organized ideas into intelligences, then into spirits.
Ideas into intelligences? Where did you get that?
Regards,
MG
Your canon of scripture. Maybe you need poster Darth J to return with his 'Know Your Religion' series. Specifically, Abraham 3:22 "Now the Lord had shown unto me, Abraham, the intelligences that were organized before the world was; and among all these there were many of the noble and great ones;"
So, if intelligences were organized, from what were they organized if not ideas?
"The truth has no defense against a fool determined to believe a lie." – Mark Twain
Are current LDS leaders denying the members the means to the Everlasting Covenant and the ability to be with God in the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom?
I don't think so. That would frustrate His plan of wanting his children to become a he is.
One thing that seems to be absent in this discussion is the principle of agency. Revelation is dependent on not only what God will but what man/mankind will live/accept/obey.
I hate to keep harping on it, but I think the key to WHY this is so is layed out in basic form by a post I made back on page four.
Have you ever known anyone that "says stuff" who wasn't human?
I'm saying that there is no special reason for me to give you any extra consideration in listening to what you have to say above and beyond any other human being who doesn't lay special claim to receiving additional light and knowledge.
And even then, as you well know, that claim should be thoroughly investigated and checked out. A lot of 'stuff' out there that is bogus in part or in whole.
Your canon of scripture. Maybe you need poster Darth J to return with his 'Know Your Religion' series. Specifically, Abraham 3:22 "Now the Lord had shown unto me, Abraham, the intelligences that were organized before the world was; and among all these there were many of the noble and great ones;"
So, if intelligences were organized, from what were they organized if not ideas?
You ask a good question for which there is no definite answer. The closest I think we've been able to come to understanding what an intelligence might be is the scriptural references to light and truth.
What that may have looked like, we don't know.
I don't think that there has been any reference to intelligence being synonymous with 'idea'.
Again, I would encourage you to read what I've said on page 4 of this thread and in other places and get over the fact that you may not be an expert on this whole revelation thing.
Regards,
MG
I don't know about anyone else, but if MG posted it on page 4 and other places, I'm convinced.
I haven't seen anyone as of yet respond seriously to what I've said.
You have no proof that the 'revelation process' is not a thing. Again, I would encourage you to read what I've said on page 4 of this thread and in other places and get over the fact that you may not be an expert on this whole revelation thing.
You're just a human saying stuff.
Regards,
MG
Are you sure that Marcus isn't the giant white toad that bitch slapped Joseph Smith when he first tried to take the gold plates?
Pretty sure it was a Hofmann Salamander, but then the Book of Mormon Musical sells a Magical Frog Plushy with "this frog will change your life!" embroidered on its plaid belly, so what do I know?!!!!
For the most part, Mormon Prophets have been shown to be undeserving of the memberships trust.
And again, I think it is important to remember that you are saying this as an outsider. A non-believer. Of course you are going to have a jaundiced view.
And I will say again, I am less than impressed with the fact that you ask questions but don't answer any...very few, anyway.
We don't even know if you're a Christian, do we? Others have not been shy about their Christian beliefs here. Why would you be? (another question)
I, for one, find it helpful to know what a person believes as I'm discussing religious things with them.
For the most part, Mormon Prophets have been shown to be undeserving of the memberships trust.
And again, I think it is important to remember that you are saying this as an outsider. A non-believer. Of course you are going to have a jaundiced view.
I have a factually accurate view. The current leadership have been found to have been wilfully running a fraudulent shell company system to avoid SEC reporting. That’s a fact. They’ve been running a dishonest scheme for decades. Regardless of who says that, it’s accurate.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Have you ever known anyone that "says stuff" who wasn't human?
I'm saying that there is no special reason for me to give you any extra consideration in listening to what you have to say above and beyond any other human being who doesn't lay special claim to receiving additional light and knowledge.
And even then, as you well know, that claim should be thoroughly investigated and checked out. A lot of 'stuff' out there that is bogus in part or in whole.
Regards,
MG
Do you think Joe did a good job with the Book of Abraham?
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