Question for Don Bradley

[Shulem]

Yes, it's possible to discern what's bad and find good things in sacred text and traditions. But text such as that of the Explanations for Facsimile No. 3, published in Mormon canon for 144 years, have no redeeming value. It's high time the Church dump the crap and move on just as they did the priesthood ban in 1978. Surely you agree.

No redeeming value? I don't go in for stark statements like that. Abraham reasoning on the principles of astronomy? Seems like it is just an illustration of what Joseph Smith thought Abraham did. The stuff about the slave is crap, sure.

Goddamn you, Kish. There is no "just" about it. What the hell is wrong with you?

The Explanations of Facsimile No. 3 have no redeeming value. They are reprehensible and slanderous, a solid mockery, and belittles the religious faith of a dead man who took his sacred record to his grave. For shame! The vignette is a holy document owned by Hor and was placed with his mummy in a tomb. It is sacred Egyptian text that has everything to do with Egyptian religion and Egyptian gods. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Jehovah, Abraham, or Israel for that matter.

How would you like it if someone went to the cemetery and dug up your dead grandfather and took personal writings he deemed sacred and reinterpreted them to promote a new cult religion? Let's dig up your grandfather and mishandle his dried bones about some attic in Kirtland for a freak side show and then take his sacred writings and pervert them -- or show a photo in his casket to represents a murderer such as Jack the Ripper. Let that be what your grandfather represents! And you, Kish, are the grandson of a killer!

How do you like that?

I demand the Church apologize for the evil practices of continuing to publish the Facsimile No. 3.

[Shulem]

I don't know that he will come here to answer you. I rather doubt it.

Then he's a coward and a f-ing hypocrite.

[Moksha]

The Explanations of Facsimile No. 3 have no redeeming value.

What about serving as an inspiration for the movie and TV series Star Gate, with the travel devices between the 15 known planets borrowing their light from Kolob, as well as introducing an ancient Egyptian-like culture to the earth? Remember, no one ever sang "Walk Like A Nephite", however, Walk Like An Egyptian was a hit on Earth, Obliblish, and Enish-go-on-Dosh.

As the great Kerry Shirts would exclaim, Medium of Kae-e-vanrash, Baby!

Wish the LDS leadership would offer an apology for hacking off Anubis' snout and ear, as well as trying to pass him off as a slave.

[Rivendale]

I don't know that he will come here to answer you. I rather doubt it.

Then he's a coward and a f-ing hypocrite.

His last interaction regarding literature that helped him regain his faith did not go over well. He invited us to read The Experience of God by David Hart and several of us did. It didn't go anywhere.

[drumdude]

Believing Mormons need a wide berth from any criticism or even discussion of their beliefs.

The ones who don’t are few and far between.

[Shulem]

Why can't Mormon God be racist?

Mormon God has ever been a racist but much less so since 1978.

Why must Mormon God be loving?

Mormon God is the imagination within the minds of Latter-day Saints who need something to adore and bow down to.

The Book of Mormon is, on the whole, more akin to the Old Testament than the New Testament.

The Book of Mormon is founded upon the principle of murder and secret combinations. Nephi (Joseph Smith) murdered Laban for his brass plates because he wanted to know what it felt like to commit murder and slit the throat of another man. Joseph Smith wanted to taste human blood and did so by narrating stories of murder and mayhem.

Mormon God is a reflection of Old Testament God.

He's a Goddamn killer! A murderous and ravenous cutthroat killer.

[Shulem]

Wish the LDS leadership would offer an apology for hacking off Anubis' snout and ear, as well as trying to pass him off as a slave.

The LDS Church is run by hypocrites and men who are utterly brainwashed. President Nelson is a rat -- a total dumbass. He's evil and is a rotten control freak. I know it because the universe has testified this to me through vibration and knowledge within eternal cosmos.

I lift up my right hand and rebuke the whole Church with power and might in declaring the rotten nature of Mormonism in church history.

So take that

[Shulem]

Then he's a coward and a f-ing hypocrite.

His last interaction regarding literature that helped him regain his faith did not go over well. He invited us to read The Experience of God by David Hart and several of us did. It didn't go anywhere.

Ugh. I simply can't hack long and drawn out conversations on philosophy. I just want Don to answer the question about the use of "genetic" in the context of his book. He doesn't have to answer the Book of Abraham question posed later in this thread.

That's not too much to ask, is it?

[Shulem]

What about serving as an inspiration for the movie and TV series Star Gate, with the travel devices between the 15 known planets borrowing their light from Kolob, as well as introducing an ancient Egyptian-like culture to the earth? Remember, no one ever sang "Walk Like A Nephite", however, Walk Like An Egyptian was a hit on Earth, Obliblish, and Enish-go-on-Dosh.

Time to kick some Kolob ass!

[Kishkumen]

No redeeming value? I don't go in for stark statements like that. Abraham reasoning on the principles of astronomy? Seems like it is just an illustration of what Joseph Smith thought Abraham did. The stuff about the slave is crap, sure.

Goddamn you, Kish. There is no "just" about it. What the hell is wrong with you?

The Explanations of Facsimile No. 3 have no redeeming value. They are reprehensible and slanderous, a solid mockery, and belittles the religious faith of a dead man who took his sacred record to his grave. For shame! The vignette is a holy document owned by Hor and was placed with his mummy in a tomb. It is sacred Egyptian text that has everything to do with Egyptian religion and Egyptian gods. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Jehovah, Abraham, or Israel for that matter.

How would you like it if someone went to the cemetery and dug up your dead grandfather and took personal writings he deemed sacred and reinterpreted them to promote a new cult religion? Let's dig up your grandfather and mishandle his dried bones about some attic in Kirtland for a freak side show and then take his sacred writings and pervert them -- or show a photo in his casket to represents a murderer such as Jack the Ripper. Let that be what your grandfather represents! And you, Kish, are the grandson of a killer!

How do you like that?

I demand the Church apologize for the evil practices of continuing to publish the Facsimile No. 3.

I suppose you will be relieved to learn that Joe didn’t dig up the bodies.