Dan McClellan's Book Debuts At Number 7 On The New York Times Best Seller List

[drumdude]

Well, how about that? A hearty congratulations to Maklelan! And as the B. H. Roberts Chair, this is especially satisfying because of how insanely jealous DCP will be about this. lol! Let’s see if this gets a mention on SeN—or, even better, if it gets reviewed by Interpreter!

Dr. Scratch,

It looks like you are correct about the Afore being insanely jealous. Not even a peep from him. It's interesting that anytime Stephen Bukkake Smoot or John Gee make even the smallest contribution to any obscure periodical or online rag, it gets a big mention from the Afore.

Daniel McClellan's book debuts on the New York Times Best Seller List and there isn't even a peep. Psychologically fascinating!

One of his students, no less.

Come on Dan, can’t you muster up even a sentence or two of praise between urinating on Christopher Hitchen’s memory?

[Everybody Wang Chung]

One of his students, no less.

Come on Dan, can’t you muster up even a sentence or two of praise between urinating on Christopher Hitchen’s memory?

And he was a "star" student, no less.

Daniel McClellan was a star student, years ago, in a seminar that my late friend and colleague Bill Hamblin and I once taught at Brigham Young University.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... -home.html

[Philo Sofee]

One of his students, no less.

Come on Dan, can’t you muster up even a sentence or two of praise between urinating on Christopher Hitchen’s memory?

And he was a "star" student, no less.

Daniel McClellan was a star student, years ago, in a seminar that my late friend and colleague Bill Hamblin and I once taught at Brigham Young University.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... -home.html

One cannot priase even one's own student who dismisses the Mesoamerican model one adheres to against all odds and with astonishingly precious little to no evidence and praise that one. If McClellan just followed alongside of DCP slobbering over his scholarship, we would never see DCP shut up about him...... but since the interpretation is differing and non-conformist to the almost anal fundamental Mormon doctrines McClellan elaborates on? Nah, can't even acknowledge the book exists. We get it, the bias is strong with this (DCP) one. This is not the student DCP is looking for.

[Moksha]

Larry Ainsworth, Brant Gardner, Steve Densley, and Dr. Tapir Dan pose for a group photo establishing proof of Lake Evendim in Arnor of Middle Earth. The tour was paid for by generous tithing donations to the More Good Foundation. No mention of Dan McClellan in this book review.

[sock puppet]

Larry Ainsworth, Brant Gardner, Steve Densley, and Dr. Tapir Dan pose for a group photo establishing proof of Lake Evendim in Arnor of Middle Earth. The tour was paid for by generous tithing donations to the More Good Foundation. No mention of Dan McClellan in this book review.

Not as fearsome as I had imagined the four horsemen of the Apocalypse.

[drumdude]

Another day. Another omission. It will be fun to keep a running count.

I suppose he could feign ignorance, but we all know he hangs on every word about him that this forum posts.

Come on Dan, just a few short sentences for your very successful former pupil. It’s a very simple academic nicety. One you’ve extended to many others in the past for far less impressive accomplishments.

[msnobody]

The guy who cuts my hair and knows very little about Mormonism, watches Dan McClellan online. Maybe I should correct myself. If I recall correctly, he has watched a Mormon Stories podcast with Dan on MS. Mentioned that Dan has books. I’m enjoying getting to know him. It kind of blew me away when he asked if I knew of Dan McClellan.

[Doctor Scratch]

Well, how about that? A hearty congratulations to Maklelan! And as the B. H. Roberts Chair, this is especially satisfying because of how insanely jealous DCP will be about this. lol! Let’s see if this gets a mention on SeN—or, even better, if it gets reviewed by Interpreter!

Dr. Scratch,

It looks like you are correct about the Afore being insanely jealous. Not even a peep from him. It's interesting that anytime Stephen Bukkake Smoot or John Gee make even the smallest contribution to any obscure periodical or online rag, it gets a big mention from the Afore.

Daniel McClellan's book debuts on the New York Times Best Seller List and there isn't even a peep. Psychologically fascinating!

Oh, I don’t think there can be any doubts about the jealousy. I’m kind of surprised that Noel hasn’t pressed him on the issue.

DCP’s entire activity at this point can be interpreted as an attempt to run away from the bullying and harm he inflicted on others over the course of 25+ years. I mean, here he is! In London! At the museum! This person, who so clearly appreciates culture….this person was never a vindictive bully, right?

The travel; the attempted re-habbing of BY’s reputation; the laziness—all of these things are symptoms of his guilty conscience, and his attempt to wall-paper over his past cruelties. His failure to do the simple act of acknowledging Maklelan’s success is just one more piece of evidence that supports this idea.

In fact, there is a really simple way of evaluating what he does online each day: Is it done to help others in some way? Or is it done to help The Image and Reputation of DCP?

You don’t have to be a believer in “The Gospel” in order to interpret what he’s doing.

[Physics Guy]

A graduate student whose thesis one has supervised is like an academic child, but professors can’t be expected to remember every undergraduate student. Even if in some cases we do, claiming a connection with someone who just heard our lectures and went on to success would be like a plumber advertising a famous client. We did nothing that lots of other people don’t do. It’s not usually a personal relationship, at the undergrad level.

[drumdude]

In this case, the Dans are very well acquainted:

It seems that a former student of mine — Dan McClellan, who was an impressive participant in a seminar on “celestial ascents” that the late Bill Hamblin and I taught at Brigham Young University — has become a social media “influencer”: “Mormon TikTok star debunks Bible conspiracies, misinformation: More than a quarter-million TikTok followers enjoy Dan McClellan’s unusual combination of deadpan humor and solid biblical scholarship”

Incidentally, Dan McClellan published an article in Interpreter back in 2015 — “Psalm 82 in Contemporary Latter-day Saint Tradition” — in which, among other things, he took issue with an earlier article that I myself had published on the subject. I judged at the time that our disagreement was not so fundamental as to demand urgent response. Should I ever return to the topic, though, I’ll certainly take his fine work into account.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... -name.html

Perhaps this is some insight into his choice to stay silent:

DS: "I know you tend to bristle when his name is mentioned."

I don't "bristle when his name is mentioned." I never have, though I do disagree with his political and economic views and, it seems, with some of his religious and historical opinions.

He was one of the best students that I ever taught at BYU and, while I don't follow him at all, I'm aware that he's gone on to do interesting things. I wish him well.

His model is apparently an impressive one in some respects, and perhaps we might be able to learn from some of its elements, but it's not what Interpreter set out to do.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... qus_thread

I believe a teacher that refuses to learn from their student is much the poorer for it.