Rittenhouse Trial: Calling Res Ipsa

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:03 am
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Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:36 pm
Sure he did; the thought was probably foremost in his mind as he struggled to type into his phone while missing a bicep.

Regardless, that speaks to mindset at the time. He didn’t empty his magazine into Rittenhouse.
What do you suppose was Grosskreutz’s mindset, who was also larping as an EMT, and had traveled twice as far to Keno with an illegal weapon?

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I think that he was also larping as an action hero, in his own mind. But I don’t think that he would have killed Rittenhouse. That would sully his larp.

It’s easy for him to have imagined after the fact that he would have pulled the trigger. And had Rittenhouse gone arms up at that point, Groskreutz would have looked like an executioner if he had fired.
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canpakes wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:19 am
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:03 am
What do you suppose was Grosskreutz’s mindset, who was also larping as an EMT, and had traveled twice as far to Keno with an illegal weapon?

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I think that he was also larping as an action hero, in his own mind. But I don’t think that he would have killed Rittenhouse. That would sully his larp.

It’s easy for him to have imagined after the fact that he would have pulled the trigger. And had Rittenhouse gone arms up at that point, Groskreutz would have looked like an executioner if he had fired.
That’s a fair take.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:11 am
Also, was it their job to detain KR? If so, then you can’t really make the argument that KR acting as a deputy to respond to crime is any more irrational than some felons deputizing themselves to react to crime.
I’ve not made that argument. But, some others here might want to note how that goes both ways.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:03 am
canpakes wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:36 pm
Sure he did; the thought was probably foremost in his mind as he struggled to type into his phone while missing a bicep.

Regardless, that speaks to mindset at the time. He didn’t empty his magazine into Rittenhouse.
What do you suppose was Grosskreutz’s mindset, who was also larping as an EMT, and had traveled twice as far to Keno with an illegal weapon?

- Doc
It was my understanding that Grosskreutz actually was an EMT. But if he was carrying a gun illegally then that may be the primary reason why he didn't use it.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:58 pm
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Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:57 pm
Rittenhouse was a coward for killing Rosenbaum and Huber. Rosenbaum was a weak homeless man who was discharged from the hospital. Rittenhouse knew Rosenbaum didn't have a weapon. Huber was a very skinny dude capable of hurting no one. Rittenhouse was a complete idiot who obviously overreacted. Rittenhouse didn't have a good reason for fear for him life, he is a big guy.
In that case, what should Rittenhouse have done?
Rittenhouse could have easily knocked Rosenbaum with just one punch. Or he could have just fired a warning shot.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:41 pm
Yes. Nevertheless, the attackers didn't take defensive steps; they took offensive ones.
There is no reason to believe Huber was trying to hurt Rittenhouse, Huber simply wanted to disarm him.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:33 pm
canpakes wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:02 pm
He was seen on multiple videos trotting around with his AR in hand, not in his BP sling.
Are you sure? Were any of them taken prior to Rosenbaum's attack?
Yes; see Kukulkan’s video linked earlier, and Kish’s pic upstream.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:11 am
Also, was it their job to detain Rittenhouse? If so, then you can’t really make the argument that Rittenhouse acting as a deputy to respond to crime is any more irrational than some felons deputizing themselves to react to crime.

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There is a big difference between vandalizers and active shooters. Rittenhouse didn't kill an active shooter, he killed a weak homeless man who was discharged from the hospital, and a skinny dude trying to disarm him. So you don't believe people should try to stop suspected active shooters when there is an opportunity? .
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:57 am
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:11 am
Also, was it their job to detain Rittenhouse? If so, then you can’t really make the argument that Rittenhouse acting as a deputy to respond to crime is any more irrational than some felons deputizing themselves to react to crime.

- Doc
There is a big difference between vandalizers and active shooters. Rittenhouse didn't kill an active shooter, he killed a weak homeless man who was in the hospital, and a skinny dude trying to disarm him. So you don't believe people should try to stop suspected active shooters when there is an opportunity? .
Are you freaking kidding me with that?
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:58 am
Are you freaking kidding me with that?
He was discharged from the hospital. Rittenhouse knew Rosenbaum didn't have a weapon. Rittenhouse could have fired a warning shot or he could have attempted to shoot him in a leg. But the truth is that Rittenhouse could have knocked out Rosenbaum with one punch. Rittenhouse didn't have a good reason to fear for his life.
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