Minister Orders Inquiry Into 4,000 % Rise In Children Wanting To Change Sex

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Wallaby Lover wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:02 pm
The liberal cult is a faith based movement. The liberal cult teaches we have an inner self and our inner self is sexed and that inner self can be different from the body.
Cool username, Dr. Shades.
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Hawkeye wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:03 pm
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Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:39 am


Of course you think it does. You hate liberals and so you assign things you don’t like into your “liberal” dumpster. There is nothing about liberalism that says “everyone should have gender affirming surgery.”
I don't think minors who in my opinion are confused about their gender should be given any irreversible treatments such as puberty blockers, mastectomies. The fact that the parents don't have a say in whether these procedures are performed is wrong as well.

Sadly nobody could save this woman from herself.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life ... er-6552282
> ajax - gender stuff blah blah

> also ajax - post an article about a woman blinding herself

-_- you’re very incelligent, bro
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Hawkeye wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:03 pm
I don't think minors who in my opinion are confused about their gender should be given any irreversible treatments such as puberty blockerrs [...]
Fortunately, they are entirely reversible. The only adverse outcome can be some decreases in bone density in some individuals.

Guess what isn't reversible? Puberty. That's why it's recommended that:
Clinicians may add gender-affirming hormones after a multidisciplinary team has confirmed the persistence of gender dysphoria/gender incongruence and sufficient mental capacity to give informed consent to this partially irreversible treatment.
Clinical Practice Guidelines - Endocrine Society

So, in order to do something irreversible regarding hormones, the guideline is for a multidisciplinary team to reach a consensus that the gender incongruence is "persistent" (i.e. not just "confused"), and that the adolescent has the mental capacity to give informed consent. This team is made up of both medical and mental health professionals. Even then though, this is a partially irreversible treatment (not fully).

The links I shared prior to your post also go into the long-term studies conducted regarding outcomes (both those who underwent gender-affirming treatment as adolescents or adults, and those who didn't, following pubertal blockers). I imagine you might be surprised by the overall long-term outcomes.

I think, like with the topic of abortion, you may have a caricature created through your media choices on what the medical field, and "liberals" view as the best practices surrounding this topic. Are there extremes? Most definitely. Are there low-information advocates on the left that get pretty kooky in their virtue signaling? Without a doubt. The actual evidence, practices, and guidelines are much different though than what low-information leftists, or media-soaked conservatives paint them, and believe them to be.
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"woman blinding herself"
I think , perhaps, this story is fiction. If it is not I am wondering if criminal charges would be appropriate for the psychiatrist.
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huckelberry wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:49 pm
"woman blinding herself"
I think , perhaps, this story is fiction. If it is not I am wondering if criminal charges would be appropriate for the psychiatrist.
Looks like her story has changed over the years. She's claimed prior to the Ajax-linked article that she had an accident.

That being said, the only possible individual that Snopes found that could be associated in any way to "Jewel" was Allen C. Piening, Psy.D., who had is license revoked. There's no way of knowing if this is the same "Jewel" (at the time of the post, that wasn't her name).
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huckelberry wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:49 pm
"woman blinding herself"
I think , perhaps, this story is fiction. If it is not I am wondering if criminal charges would be appropriate for the psychiatrist.
Xanax, as usual, doesn’t bother to do a cursory fact check on the schlock he peddles:

https://www.snopes.com/news/2015/10/02/ ... ing-blind/

He expresses 0 curiosity in the content he posts when it’s bias-confirming. He’s very incelligent.

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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:09 pm
huckelberry wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:49 pm
"woman blinding herself"
I think , perhaps, this story is fiction. If it is not I am wondering if criminal charges would be appropriate for the psychiatrist.
Looks like her story has changed over the years. She's claimed prior to the Ajax-linked article that she had an accident.

That being said, the only possible individual that Snopes found that could be associated in any way to "Jewel" was Allen C. Piening, Psy.D., who had is license revoked. There's no way of knowing if this is the same "Jewel" (at the time of the post, that wasn't her name).
If it is the same Jewel, there’s a pretty good hint in one of her posts about the reason for the revocation:
I spent only two weeks with the psychologist at his home, but spent almost a full year in talk therapy and other treatments from the psychologist,
Why, oh why, was this patient staying at the home of her psychologist?

ETA: Turns out the revocation was for lying on his application and being suspended in two other states. https://online-dfpr.micropact.com/looku ... ookup.aspx And the revocation occurred 9 years before the alleged incident.

I couldn’t find anything in Wisconsin, but the Complaint in Indiana alleges that he lied about receiving Psy.D and submitted a forged certificate stating that he had earned the degree. If it is the same guy, he hadn’t been licensed for years.
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huckelberry wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:49 pm
"woman blinding herself"
I think , perhaps, this story is fiction. If it is not I am wondering if criminal charges would be appropriate for the psychiatrist.
It was a psychologist, not even a psychiatrist. She made him pour the bleach in her eyes twice. The first time she tried she was really angry with the psychologist because she could still see her television, so she demanded that he do it again. If the psychologist is criminally liable for this, why shouldn't these teams of sex change doctors be liable for the damage they've done to these kids with similar psychiatric issues?
The best part about this is waiting four years to see how all the crazy apocalyptic predictions made by the fear mongering idiots in Right Wing media turned out to be painfully wrong...Gasoline would hit $10/gallon. Hyperinflation would ensue.
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He’s just going to plow right ahead, isn’t he?
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Dec 17, 2022 2:19 am
He’s just going to plow right ahead, isn’t he?
Who would have guessed?
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