The Picture

[Kishkumen]

I am not sure of the sinking ship thing.

I dunno! The Democratic Party seems very much like a slowly sinking ship these days.

[canpakes]

Are you asking me to abandon a political party that I've dedicated my entire life to simply because it's been overrun by a group of entitled individuals who struggle to cooperate with others?

Absolutely. You obviously have some heroes that inspire you. The four people in your picture embody your current set of principles. Why pretend to want to be part of a party that you consistently characterize as controlled by random people you’ve plucked off of the internet based on weird YouTube videos that only attract the attention of folks such as yourself?

Besides, you’ve never been able to explain what it is within the current Democratic Party platform you disagree with, or agree with. You appear to be completely unfamiliar with it. Time for you to admit where your heart really lies.

[Hound of Heaven]

Why pretend to want to be part of a party

The sole act of pretense is occurring within the progressive faction of my party. Within the progressive movement, there is a belief that a baby is not considered a human, they refer to it as merely a clump of cells. Within the progressive movement, there is a belief that a man can truly become a woman and a woman can genuinely become a man, despite scientific evidence contradicting these claims. People are tired of the lies.

Many Americans have become weary of the progressive movement's constant complaints about victimhood and their belief that they alone possess the authority to establish moral and ethical standards that are inclusive for all. That statement is completely inaccurate. In fact, progressivism has hindered the overall well being of America more than any other movement I can think of.

Permitting the progressive movement to dictate the agenda for a political party resembles letting the self centered child of the family, who shows no regard for others, establish the family's priorities.

Men are men, women are women, and babies are babies. Unless the Democratic Party ceases to permit progressives within its ranks to propose such nonsensical ideas that contradict scientific understanding, it will struggle to secure victories in future elections.

Individuals, particularly the younger generation in America, exhibited a level of tolerance towards the progressive movement for an extended period, akin to the family member whose disagreements could spoil future gatherings out of sheer spite. However, that is no longer the case! People have had enough of progressivism!

[Kishkumen]

Within the progressive movement, there is a belief that a baby is not considered a human, they refer to it as merely a clump of cells.

You do realize that these are issues people have disagreed about for centuries. So, you believe that a mere clump of cells is a human being. Someone else may believe it is a mere clump of cells. I am not sure you have said anything more than what it is you believe. Your beliefs are not self-evidently true to everyone. They do not constitute "the truth."

Within the progressive movement, there is a belief that a man can truly become a woman and a woman can genuinely become a man, despite scientific evidence contradicting these claims. People are tired of the lies.

What lies? Again, we are talking about different views regarding what makes a person a woman or a man. You hew to one kind of definition. Others take another view. There are no "lies" here, only differences of viewpoint.

Men are men, women are women, and babies are babies. Unless the Democratic Party ceases to permit progressives within its ranks to propose such nonsensical ideas that contradict scientific understanding, it will struggle to secure victories in future elections.

Science does not determine the meaning of words. Usually cultural consensus does. I am all for accepting that different folks will have different definitions. You are the one insisting that there can only be one view about the meaning of each of these words.

[canpakes]

Why pretend to want to be part of a party

The sole act of pretense is occurring within the progressive faction of my party. Within the progressive movement, there is a belief that a baby is not considered a human, they refer to it as merely a clump of cells. Within the progressive movement, there is a belief that a man can truly become a woman and a woman can genuinely become a man, despite scientific evidence contradicting these claims. People are tired of the lies.

Many Americans have become weary of the progressive movement's constant complaints about victimhood and their belief that they alone possess the authority to establish moral and ethical standards that are inclusive for all. That statement is completely inaccurate. In fact, progressivism has hindered the overall well being of America more than any other movement I can think of.

Permitting the progressive movement to dictate the agenda for a political party resembles letting the self centered child of the family, who shows no regard for others, establish the family's priorities.

Men are men, women are women, and babies are babies. Unless the Democratic Party ceases to permit progressives within its ranks to propose such nonsensical ideas that contradict scientific understanding, it will struggle to secure victories in future elections.

Individuals, particularly the younger generation in America, exhibited a level of tolerance towards the progressive movement for an extended period, akin to the family member whose disagreements could spoil future gatherings out of sheer spite. However, that is no longer the case! People have had enough of progressivism!

So the question stands unanswered while you further monologize.

Why pretend to want to be part of a party that you consistently characterize as controlled by random people you’ve plucked off of the internet based on weird YouTube videos that only attract the attention of folks such as yourself?

Why pretend to want to be part of a party that you consistently complain does not represent your opinions?

; )

This whole routine of ‘progressives bad..!!’ was much more amusing when presented as the argument of a slightly raunchy, older, part-time surfer from the Atlantic seaboard. Oh, for the good ol’ days.

[Bret Ripley]

This whole routine of ‘progressives bad..!!’ was much more amusing when presented as the argument of a slightly raunchy older, part-time surfer from the Atlantic seaboard. Oh, for the good ol’ days.

Agreed, but this version sports a cooler avatar.

[canpakes]

… babies are babies.

You are the one insisting that there can only be one view about the meaning of each of these words.

Indeed. As we’ve seen since the Trump Administration has taken office, babies exist in unexpected sizes and are often now assigned unusual duties, such as stomping their feet in ‘press conferences’ and waving papers around while yelling at people for not calling the Gulf of Mexico something different, in service of soothing fragile MAGA egos.

[canpakes]

This whole routine of ‘progressives bad..!!’ was much more amusing when presented as the argument of a slightly raunchy older, part-time surfer from the Atlantic seaboard. Oh, for the good ol’ days.

Agreed, but this version sports a cooler avatar.

On that:

https://preview-art.com/feature/the-hound-of-heaven/

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https://www.maryhillmuseum.org/wp-conte ... Heaven.pdf

[Moksha]

What do you observe when you view this picture?

I think of Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will and wonder if there will be an outbreak of brainworms in the White House.

[Hound of Heaven]

You do realize that these are issues people have disagreed about for centuries. So, you believe that a mere clump of cells is a human being. Someone else may believe it is a mere clump of cells. I am not sure you have said anything more than what it is you believe. Your beliefs are not self-evidently true to everyone. They do not constitute "the truth."

You're too intelligent to hold those views.

Deep down, I believe you recognize that a clump of cells developing within a mother's womb is indeed a baby, irrespective of how long it has been there.

My question to you is, has a clump of cells growing inside the womb of a human mother ever resulted in anything other than a human being? Could you provide an example, please?

Perhaps an illustration of a human mother delivering a different type of mammal.

Some issues, such as the one we are currently addressing, are simply undeniable truths. Allowing the progressive perspective to characterize a baby merely as a clump of cells lacking any human traits is a significant factor in Trump's presidency.