2025 Looking like 2020 - Wonder What They Have In Common

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TDS, Progressive, yada yada. Rinse, repeat.
Didn't T recently accuse Musk of having TDS? As the perfect example to show how meaningful the diagnosis is.
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.
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Gadianton wrote:
Mon Jun 09, 2025 1:53 pm
TDS, Progressive, yada yada. Rinse, repeat.
Didn't T recently accuse Musk of having TDS? As the perfect example to show how meaningful the diagnosis is.
Indeed. Yawn.
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
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Gadianton wrote:
Mon Jun 09, 2025 1:53 pm
TDS, Progressive, yada yada. Rinse, repeat.
Didn't T recently accuse Musk of having TDS? As the perfect example to show how meaningful the diagnosis is.
I think that Trump also accused Musk of being completely strung out on cheap drugs.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/Trump-calls- ... 31950.html

** sigh ** … so many not the best ‘best people’ for this Administration. We definitely need much better ‘best people’ than Trump’s people.
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I think it's worth looking at what Trump leaning supporters are saying. They are accusing Gavin Newsom, the mayor of L.A. and democratic funded NGO's of inciting this with the media downplaying the severity of the riots going on there. What is really going on? If the democrats are staging riots to incite a Trump response that their media compatriots dutifully condemn, is this what we want going on in our country? It seems we are on the road to civil war. Labeling half the county as terrorists like a certain former CIA contractor did in a video that was displayed on this cite doesn't help to lower the temperature, either. If CIA backed NGO's are doing what they've done all over the world, e.g. fomenting unrest to then topple governments, if that is coming home seemingly like happened in 2020 with the Antifa riots, we should stand up to it and say enough is enough. Let the people decide without the b.s. provocations and counter-provocations that lead to civil war.

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Kishkumen wrote:
Mon Jun 09, 2025 1:44 pm
Markk wrote:
Mon Jun 09, 2025 4:08 am
The immigration bill was a mess. Have you read it? Trump stopped what Biden should have and could have using a simple executive order and using US code laws on the books, in a month or two.
You are exactly one of those people I would expect to come back with "I can't handle complexity so tyranny is cool with me."
Instead Biden, or who ever the Gríma Wormtongue was, allowed 10 million unvetted people.
We all know who Trump's Grima Wormtongue is. His name is Stephen Miller.
It wasn't until Texas started shipping them to blue states did they say there was a crisis. And he still did nothing but sit on the beach and practice for a debate that was his bane.
I will give the fascists this much--they really have a knack for pulling the kind of theatrical stunts that stir up morons.
This is on him, he made the mess. 10 million in 4 years Honor. The cartels are in our neighborhoods down here, we are the ones dealing with it, apparently not you. Let me guess a gated community on the Wasatch front.
This is on the bad drug policies and absolute absence of effective immigration policies that our MAGA fascists trade on.
You just whine about what Trump does and have nothing to offer in regard to solutions to what illegal immigration has caused. Trying to blame it on a bill you haven't read is not a solution, but an excuse for four years of incompetence from Biden and the border czar Harris.
So, no choice but to go fascist in your view. Predictable.
Fascist? is that the word of the day? How am I a fascist? Do you believe law and order should just be thrown out the window?

Whose fault is it that 10 million unvetted illegal immigrants were allowed to come over the border in just 4 years? You call folks fascists for supporting cleaning up that mess?

I can do the same....my guess is you live in your elite little socialist world, in a gated community drawing a state salary, offering nothing to the tax base other than house monies. Then you bitch and moan about folks that work hard to pay your tax based salary.

Kish how is arresting criminals and people that come here illegally, who violated your suggested path way to citizenship that you pasted a month ago or so here?

I did not see you complaining about an illegal immigrant trying to burn people alive in a park a few weeks ago... I didn't hear you complaining about the Chinese nationals, members of the CCP, who were busted smuggling in a pathogen a few weeks ago.

Do you expect the country to just ignore and pay for these 10 million illegal immigrants....?

Here is your suggested plan for citizenship.....which is the current law.
2. Eligibility Requirements for Naturalization:
Age: You must be at least 18 years old.
Good moral character: This means having a clean criminal record and demonstrating good character throughout your application process.
English Language Skills: You must be able to read, write, and speak basic English.
US History and Government Knowledge: You must pass the civics test, demonstrating knowledge of US history and government.
Continuous Residence: You must have lived continuously in the US as a permanent resident for the required period (5 or 3 years).
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Pay the filing fee: There is a fee associated with the application process.

4. Naturalization Process:
Interview and Tests: You'll be interviewed by a USCIS officer and take both the English language test and the civics test.
Biometrics Appointment: You may be required to attend a biometrics appointment for fingerprinting.
Oath Ceremony: Once your application is approved, you'll attend a naturalization ceremony to take the Oath of Allegiance and officially become a US citizen.

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ICE, CBP, and other government agencies are enforcing the exact law that you supported and championed here. Now you call them fascists for upholding the laws of this country while cheering thugs throwing objects at them, shutting down freeways and streets, and burning our cities.

Here are a few examples of some that were arrested in LA...
  • 49-year-old Cuong Chanh Phan, an illegal alien from Vietnam with a criminal history that includes a conviction for second-degree murder. Phan was convicted of shooting up a high school graduation party after a dispute, killing an 18-year-old and a 15-year-old. Seven others were injured in the incident, according to DHS.
  • Rolando Veneracion-Enriquez, a 55-year-old illegal alien from the Philippines who was convicted of burglary, sexual penetration with a foreign object and assault with intent to commit rape.
  • Lionel Sanchez-Laguna, a 55-year-old Mexican national, was arrested by ICE on Friday. His criminal history includes discharging a firearm at an inhabited dwelling and vehicle, battery on spouse or cohabitant, willful cruelty to child, driving under the influence, assault with a semi-automatic firearm, and personal use of a firearm.
  • 44-year-old Armando Ordaz, of Mexico. DHS said Ordaz’s criminal history includes sexual battery, receiving known or stolen property and petty theft.
  • Francisco Sanchez-Arguello, 38, of Mexico was arrested on Friday and had previously been arrested for grand theft larceny and possession of a prohibited weapon, DHS said.
  • 42-year-old Jose Gregorio Medranda Ortiz, an Ecuadorian national who had previously been arrested and convicted of conspiracy to possess five kilograms or more of cocaine with distribution intent while on a vessel in Tampa, Florida.
  • Victor Mendoza-Aguilar, 32, of Mexico, who had also previously been convicted of crimes, including possession of unlawful paraphernalia, possession of controlled substances, assault with a deadly weapon and obstruction of a public officer.
  • Delfino Aguilar-Martinez, 51, of Mexico, was arrested Friday and had previously been charged and convicted with assault with a deadly weapon with great bodily injury, DHS said.
  • 43-year-old Jose Cristobal Hernandez-Buitron, an illegal alien from Peru, was one of those arrested Friday and had been previously convicted of robbery.
  • Honduran national Jordan Mauricio Meza-Esquibel, 32, was also arrested during the operation. He was previously convicted of distributing narcotics and domestic violence.
  • 26-year-old Jesus Alan Hernandez-Morales, a Mexican national, was arrested and had previously been convicted of conspiring to transport an illegal alien into the U.S.
You should be happy these folks are finally off the streets.
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Anyone else get the feeling Markk doesn't know what fascist means?

I'm pretty sure this country has more politician crime than immigrant crime.

But most of the politicians are white, so who cares about those crimes?
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Dr Exiled wrote:
Mon Jun 09, 2025 2:42 pm
I think it's worth looking at what Trump leaning supporters are saying. They are accusing Gavin Newsom, the mayor of L.A. and democratic funded NGO's of inciting this with the media downplaying the severity of the riots going on there. What is really going on? If the democrats are staging riots to incite a Trump response that their media compatriots dutifully condemn, is this what we want going on in our country? It seems we are on the road to civil war. Labeling half the county as terrorists like a certain former CIA contractor did in a video that was displayed on this cite doesn't help to lower the temperature, either. If CIA backed NGO's are doing what they've done all over the world, e.g. fomenting unrest to then topple governments, if that is coming home seemingly like happened in 2020 with the Antifa riots, we should stand up to it and say enough is enough. Let the people decide without the b.s. provocations and counter-provocations that lead to civil war.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/mar ... revolution
There’s a lot of ‘just asking questions’ going on here. The possibilities fall just short of Jewish Space Lasers directly rewriting cerebral cortex commands to will rioters to follow specific plans on a coordinated series of attacks designed to destroy lots of personal property in an attempt to ‘Make Trump Look Bad’, so that Trump will be forced - against his will - to throw more tantrums and choose ever more reactionary measures so that the underground cabal of ‘Make Trump Look Bad’ people can somehow wrest control of The Nation by forcing California to fight US Marines in the streets in cage matches.

Or, folks are doing stupid shiite, which is something that can always be counted on and which can be exploited by both literal and figurative bomb throwers, the list of whom does not exclude elected fraudsters with a penchant for grifting, pathologically lying and divisive rhetoric.

Not sure which one you’re drifting towards, good Doctor, but I promise to get you in on some royalty action if I can monetize the YouTube videos explaining it all.
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Markk wrote:
Mon Jun 09, 2025 2:47 pm
Here are a few examples of some that were arrested in LA...
Not only does it appear that some of these 11 people may have already been in custody prior to yesterday, but is the Trump ICE machine so poorly run that we have to call in the National Guard and run sloppy raids intentionally designed to inflame the locals and titillate MAGA morons, just to grab those 11 folks?
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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Mon Jun 09, 2025 12:21 pm
<A.I. content?>
moving on...
canpakes wrote:
Mon Jun 09, 2025 6:30 pm
Markk wrote:
Mon Jun 09, 2025 2:47 pm
Here are a few examples of some that were arrested in LA...
Not only does it appear that some of these 11 people may have already been in custody prior to yesterday, but is the Trump ICE machine so poorly run that we have to call in the National Guard and run sloppy raids intentionally designed to inflame the locals and titillate MAGA morons, just to grab those 11 folks?
Wow. It seemed statistically unlikely that this sweep would generate 11 such 'perfect' candidates, you mean it might have been staged???
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canpakes wrote:
Mon Jun 09, 2025 6:30 pm
Markk wrote:
Mon Jun 09, 2025 2:47 pm
Here are a few examples of some that were arrested in LA...
Not only does it appear that some of these 11 people may have already been in custody prior to yesterday, but is the Trump ICE machine so poorly run that we have to call in the National Guard and run sloppy raids intentionally designed to inflame the locals and titillate MAGA morons, just to grab those 11 folks?
That is a pretty good sample size, I think it was, so far, 11 out of how many? that have serious records. Using 10 million as datum for this, that would mean how many folks like these 11 in the US....no one knows.

The National Guard did a good job in keeping the thugs to only burn taxis....

CFR it was intentionally designed to inflame, I think it was designed to protect the officers, public, and capture folks breaking the law.
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