NBC news story on Hunter Biden

[Schreech]

While it’s fun watching you guys hand markkk his ass day after day (I kind of think he gets off on making a fool of himself at this point as it’s hard to imagine anyone this starved of critical thinking skills…), this thread reminds me of a quote from one of my favorite people:

“It's hard to win an argument with a smart person. It's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.”
Bill Murray

That said, please carry on and thanks for the entertainment

[Markk]

Paul Manafort is probably corrupt…okay throw him is jail.

Not ‘probably’ … is. : D

By the rules of your own logic, that means that Trump is eyeballs deep in corruption. We should spend lots of money investigating him for his corruption. Because Manafort.

He is being investigated and he is constantly being sued.

It cracks me up in that you folks have a very hard time having a political conversation about your own, without bringing Trump into it. When I was a Mormon I often justified Mormonism’s short coming by comparing it to Christianity’s short comings. Then when I became a Christian, when Talking to a Mormon, they would do the same to me. But as a Mormon, it was very difficult to talk to a Atheist in that I could not play the “double standard card”…and I was left with the realization that I had to face what was being presented by the atheist at more or less face value.

[Markk]

...did Eric S have power of attorney of Joes account or not? LOL I will wait for that answer.

You act as if something has been proven to be deep corruption exposed, or, at least heaving just beneath the surface waiting to be exposed.

Nothing that you seem concerned about means anything. Except you've been told that the emails from 2010 prove something meaningful. They yank your chain, you bark.

LOL…No I don’t, it is just another bit of smoke.

A lobbyist firm, because in reality that is how Rosemont operated, handled monies for Joe Biden. And as you wrote may have had Power of Attorney over the sitting VP’s account/s.

We also know that Hunter as a lawyer/chairman of the board for Rosemont lobbied for and recommended Blue Star to try to clean up MZ’s/Burisma’s image. And we know that Blue Star lawyers and I believe the owner…went to the Ukraine and met face to face with Lutsenko, who had replaced the the PG that Joe demanded to fired, and who had JB’s approval…even though he had served three years or so in prison for corruption.


You wanted a time line, so all this should be put into the time line.

[Markk]

Do you have any idea what we are discussing?

Markk, you can’t ask that question of others until you meet that same threshold yourself.

Well I disagree, I am answering questions as they come, as time permits…what happens in your case, is that you ask questions, and then when answered you don’t like or appreciate the answer in that you believe that there is only one answer to your questions, when there is obviously not.

In this case you know as well asIdo Jersey Girl is clueless of what the arguments are and does zero homework on her own…there are certain members of your tribe that jump in and out that never dig in and actually, objectively, “study” the different views we are going back and forth with. They are more or less parrots waiting for me to say something that id not factual, or if I just get sloppy, they parrot your point. Or when you, Honor or Res do the same…which we all do from time to time…they might jump in to encourage your blunder, like screech just did.

But anyways I would almost pay for you guys to stand down and let Jersey Girl take over for you…it would be a blast. I would also almost pay to see one of you go to a right wing board and watch and see if you can hang in there getting hammered from ten different people at a time.

Like I said, I am doing okay, I believe I make you think if nothing more.

[Markk]

NO…I tell you what..instead of just being a nanny, actually take th e lead in the conversation. Honor and pakes can stand down, and you can take over? Fair.Do you have any idea what we are discussing?

Nanny? I asked you a simple question! What on earth explains your reaction?

You are a nanny…that’s what you do….you don’t offer any insight or show any initiative in actually understanding the different arguments…you just pop in form time to time with a bitchy attitude like a mother hen or “nanny” like you actually understand th e different view. That’s all you have ever done.

I’ll throw you a Bone…start here. Who is MZ, and give me a two paragraph similar-in-depth bio of the man…you should be able to do so with a little help form google searches.

[Schreech]

It cracks me up in that you folks have a very hard time having a political conversation about your own, without bringing Trump into it. When I was a Mormon I often justified Mormonism’s short coming by comparing it to Christianity’s short comings. Then when I became a Christian, when Talking to a Mormon, they would do the same to me. But as a Mormon, it was very difficult to talk to a Atheist in that I could not play the “double standard card”…and I was left with the realization that I had to face what was being presented by the atheist at more or less face value.

Yea guys, quit with the brining up of relevant examples where markkk ignores the dumpster fire of corruption that was the Trump presidency while harping on imaginary “smoke” that for sure, according to markkks “beliefs”, prove that JB is corrupt. Forget that he can’t actually point to anything illegal, he “believes!”. It only counts when the candidate has a D next to their name otherwise you are playing the “double standard card” (lol) and markkk might have to “face what was being presented…at more or less face value”. Adorable.

[honorentheos]

A lobbyist firm, because in reality that is how Rosemont operated, handled monies for Joe Biden. And as you wrote may have had Power of Attorney over the sitting VP’s account/s.

What you have is an accountant discussing with Joe Biden's available son how to pay for bills out of certain trust funds. Schwerin seems to have some limited authority to sign checks on Joe's behalf while needing his or Hunter's approval for other things. Again, with Beau being deployed to Iraq it makes sense Hunter would have that responsibility.

But even your malformed attempt to paint it as corruption concedes that the money being spent is Joe's. So, progress.

[canpakes]

It cracks me up in that you folks have a very hard time having a political conversation about your own, …

Well, I keep asking you to explain some of your claims, and you respond by repeatedly deflecting and saying something about a straw man.

Tell me about the legal issues of paying a cellphone bill. Or a retaining wall. Your pick. Here’s your chance, again.

[canpakes]

Markk, you can’t ask that question of others until you meet that same threshold yourself.

Well I disagree, I am answering questions as they come, as time permits…

Truth be told, I am kidding around with you a bit with that line.
: )

… what happens in your case, is that you ask questions, and then when answered you don’t like or appreciate the answer in that you believe that there is only one answer to your questions, when there is obviously not.

There may not be only one answer to my question(s). But, claiming that JB is corrupt because a Ukrainian oligarch did business at some point with a company that employed a guy who once discussed a cellphone bill of the VP with Hunter Biden … is a bIt of a stretch, as far as ‘answers’ go.

I would also almost pay to see one of you go to a right wing board and watch and see if you can hang in there getting hammered from ten different people at a time.

That would be a ton of fun. If I agree, what kind of money are you talkin’? : D

[Markk]

A lobbyist firm, because in reality that is how Rosemont operated, handled monies for Joe Biden. And as you wrote may have had Power of Attorney over the sitting VP’s account/s.

What you have is an accountant discussing with Joe Biden's available son how to pay for bills out of certain trust funds. Schwerin seems to have some limited authority to sign checks on Joe's behalf while needing his or Hunter's approval for other things. Again, with Beau being deployed to Iraq it makes sense Hunter would have that responsibility.

But even your malformed attempt to paint it as corruption concedes that the money being spent is Joe's. So, progress.

Eric Bio from here ….

Eric D. Schwerin… https://www.instituteforethicalawarenes ... isory.html.

“Eric D. Schwerin is President of Rosemont Seneca Partners, LLC, an alternative investment and market advisory firm with offices in Washington, DC and New York. He has held a number of positions in the executive branch, including Senior Policy Advisor for International Trade in the Commerce Department and Director of Business Liaison in the White House. Eric received a B.A. degree from the University of Pennsylvania and a M.A. degree in International Affairs from The George Washington University.“

Unless he has an degree in accounting that isn’t listed, his degree is in international affairs. This should be noted in the time line. In layman’s terms he is a lobbyist.