Trump's DOJ: There Is No Epstein List

[Doctor Steuss]

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If Trump was on the list I find it hard to believe it was not leaked by the previous administration before the election. If high ranking Democrat's are on the list I find that equally difficult to believe that the current administration wouldn't leak it. Who knows maybe there is some sort of black agreement between the power brokers behind both parties....like big pharma and other super Pac's.
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I don't know that there's any kind of "agreement," but in my non-special-insights opinion, I think your final theory is the closest to the truth.

I think Trump/Republicans and Democrats realize that there's "mutual assured destruction" (MAD) behind Epstein. Between Trump, Bill Clinton, royal family members, justices, Republican and Democrat power brokers, lobbyists, CEOs, tech moguls, etc. all likely evidenced as taking part in the trafficking and exploitation of women and minors, revealing anyone would ultimately mean a domino effect of MAD.

That said, I don't think Trump and Republicans realize just how much the MAGA faithful would ultimately see him on the list as a complete non-issue. With Trump's self-admissions of being a sexual predator, adjudication finding that he told the truth when he bragged about assaulting women, his bragging about walking in on children getting dressed along with several of those children and their moms confirming that he was telling the truth about that vile voyeuristic child sexual predation, his sexualizing his own infant, and so on -- I'm not exactly sure what difference it would make to MAGA seeing him on Epstein's so-called "list." He was Epstein's friend, continued a secret friendship with Epstein (according to the Epstein tapes) while President, flew on Epstein's plane, etc. Hell, Epstein mused in the Epstein tapes while in prison about how devoid of ethics and morals Trump was. How disgusting do you suppose a person needs to be in order for Epstein to find them depraved? Yet the majority of "Christians" voted for him, and support him to this day. There is nothing he could be guilty of that will lose him the support of the majority of Republicans. They might say that being a frequent flier to pedophile island would be the last straw, but they're ultimately just saying that as a performative act to pretend like they still have ethics and morals (likely to a large extent, trying to convince themselves that they already haven't already completely sold their souls to an anti-Christ).

[Morley]

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If Trump was on the list I find it hard to believe it was not leaked by the previous administration before the election. If high ranking Democrat's are on the list I find that equally difficult to believe that the current administration wouldn't leak it. Who knows maybe there is some sort of black agreement between the power brokers behind both parties....like big pharma and other super Pac's.
[...]

I don't know that there's any kind of "agreement," but in my non-special-insights opinion, I think your final theory is the closest to the truth.

I think Trump/Republicans and Democrats realize that there's "mutual assured destruction" (MAD) behind Epstein. Between Trump, Bill Clinton, royal family members, justices, Republican and Democrat power brokers, lobbyists, CEOs, tech moguls, etc. all likely evidenced as taking part in the trafficking and exploitation of women and minors, revealing anyone would ultimately mean a domino effect of MAD.

That said, I don't think Trump and Republicans realize just how much the MAGA faithful would ultimately see him on the list as a complete non-issue. With Trump's self-admissions of being a sexual predator, adjudication finding that he told the truth when he bragged about assaulting women, his bragging about walking in on children getting dressed along with several of those children and their moms confirming that he was telling the truth about that vile voyeuristic child sexual predation, his sexualizing his own infant, and so on -- I'm not exactly sure what difference it would make to MAGA seeing him on Epstein's so-called "list." He was Epstein's friend, continued a secret friendship with Epstein (according to the Epstein tapes) while President, flew on Epstein's plane, etc. Hell, Epstein mused in the Epstein tapes while in prison about how devoid of ethics and morals Trump was. How disgusting do you suppose a person needs to be in order for Epstein to find them depraved? Yet the majority of "Christians" voted for him, and support him to this day. There is nothing he could be guilty of that will lose him the support of the majority of Republicans. They might say that being a frequent flier to pedophile island would be the last straw, but they're ultimately just saying that as a performative act to pretend like they still have ethics and morals (likely to a large extent, trying to convince themselves that they already haven't already completely sold their souls to an anti-Christ).

Well said.

We don't sell our souls with some grand, embossed, notarized contract like Doctor Faustus and Mephistopheles. We barter it away, one quarter of an ounce at a time, over months and years of rationalization and comprise. Even then, when we're called on it, we point to how other people are just as bad as we are. "Both parties are corrupt." "We're all hypocrites." "Everyone does it." And my favorite: "God works through imperfect people."

[Markk]

[...]
If Trump was on the list I find it hard to believe it was not leaked by the previous administration before the election. If high ranking Democrat's are on the list I find that equally difficult to believe that the current administration wouldn't leak it. Who knows maybe there is some sort of black agreement between the power brokers behind both parties....like big pharma and other super Pac's.
[...]

I don't know that there's any kind of "agreement," but in my non-special-insights opinion, I think your final theory is the closest to the truth.

I think Trump/Republicans and Democrats realize that there's "mutual assured destruction" (MAD) behind Epstein. Between Trump, Bill Clinton, royal family members, justices, Republican and Democrat power brokers, lobbyists, CEOs, tech moguls, etc. all likely evidenced as taking part in the trafficking and exploitation of women and minors, revealing anyone would ultimately mean a domino effect of MAD.

That said, I don't think Trump and Republicans realize just how much the MAGA faithful would ultimately see him on the list as a complete non-issue. With Trump's self-admissions of being a sexual predator, adjudication finding that he told the truth when he bragged about assaulting women, his bragging about walking in on children getting dressed along with several of those children and their moms confirming that he was telling the truth about that vile voyeuristic child sexual predation, his sexualizing his own infant, and so on -- I'm not exactly sure what difference it would make to MAGA seeing him on Epstein's so-called "list." He was Epstein's friend, continued a secret friendship with Epstein (according to the Epstein tapes) while President, flew on Epstein's plane, etc. Hell, Epstein mused in the Epstein tapes while in prison about how devoid of ethics and morals Trump was. How disgusting do you suppose a person needs to be in order for Epstein to find them depraved? Yet the majority of "Christians" voted for him, and support him to this day. There is nothing he could be guilty of that will lose him the support of the majority of Republicans. They might say that being a frequent flier to pedophile island would be the last straw, but they're ultimately just saying that as a performative act to pretend like they still have ethics and morals (likely to a large extent, trying to convince themselves that they already haven't already completely sold their souls to an anti-Christ).

I just can't believe that the Democrat's would not have leaked it if Trump was involved. The lengths they went with the Hunter Biden laptop lies is a example of that.

There is something much deep that.

[Doctor Steuss]

I just can't believe that the Democrat's would not have leaked it if Trump was involved. The lengths they went with the Hunter Biden laptop lies is a example of that.

There is something much deep that.

They may have looked at all of the evidence that was already publicly available (Trump on flight logs, his friendship and interviews about Epstein, Trump's public history of sexual predation and sexualizing children, Trump's alignment with Acosta who gave Epstein the sweetheart deal to stay out of prison for soliciting and procuring a minor for prostitution [who Trump awarded with a Cabinet position as a thank you for keeping his pedophile friend out of prison]), and realized that Trump would continue to be worshiped by Republicans because of the sunk cost threshold and Overton window shift, and calculated it would only harm themselves because of the Democrat royalty that would almost assuredly go down too in the process.

I would be absolutely shocked to find that Bill Clinton isn't within the evidence of exploitation and trafficking. Rolling the dice that Trump would exit unscathed, but Democrat royalty might burn may have not been worth the gamble. Even with what we know about Clinton, the DNC still platforms him, which is troubling and vile. I don't know that there's been a Steve "Burn The Whole Thing Down" Bannon equivalent on the left that would have been all-too-happy to torch the party and hobble its power structure on the very small chance that it might harm the other side.

Democrat power brokers are probably too calculated for that type of thing.

ETA: This is all, of course, just conspiratorial speculation. I could be letting my mind/imagination run amok. Rascally thing about conspiracies is the noggin's tendency to reinterpret everything in a way that reinforces it. I might be falling victim to that right now.

[ajax18]

I don't know. Either way, it's a nonissue for me.

Really. You never posted here about the pedophiles in the Democratic party, the elites abusing kids, none of that? You never said a word about Epstein? You don’t want the people who, according to your people, raped thousands of kids, caught?

The end of this elite secret society that rapes children is a non issue for you?

Can you find a quote of me railing about Epstein?

[Morley]

Really. You never posted here about the pedophiles in the Democratic party, the elites abusing kids, none of that? You never said a word about Epstein? You don’t want the people who, according to your people, raped thousands of kids, caught?

The end of this elite secret society that rapes children is a non issue for you?

Can you find a quote of me railing about Epstein?

Here's an article you posted and seeming endorsed. It was titled "Yes, Democrats Really Do Want to Groom Your Children." It includes a screed about Democrats and Epstein.

So, umm, yes.


https://www.discussmormonism.com/viewto ... #p2776076

[Morley]

Can you find a quote of me railing about Epstein?

There's also this one where you mention Clinton and Epstein.

https://www.discussmormonism.com/viewto ... 3#p2853133

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

You can’t win an argument with Ajax18. If you defeat him with logic today, he’ll act like nothing happened tomorrow.

- Doc

[ajax18]

Huckleberry, Hunter's only flaw in Biden's eyes is his drug addiction and whoremongering. Being the leader of the family influence peddling business is exactly what Joe raised him to be, the same as Mitt Romney and every other political elite family loyal to the uniparty. Mitt's family likely just hid their tracks better than the drug addicated whoremonger Hunter Biden did. WJC was a whoremonger as well and likely engaged in similar influence peddling according to Peter Schweizer's book Clinton cash but he would never have gotten so stoned that he would let all this out in the open and the force the FBI and mainstream media to lie for him. Why? Because even though he smoked marijuana, he didn't inhale. Epstein's secrets were safe with WJC.

Well that's a good find. I was wrong about the Epstein case. But it never was a very important issue to me. It's still not. Even if everything about Epstein was wrong. Hunter Biden and Bill Clinton are still whoremongers.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Hunter Biden and Bill Clinton are still whoremongers.

Is whoremongering something that would stop you from supporting a politician?