Juicy Smollet Trial

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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:34 am

Like according to their single anonymous source in the many retractions of their lies about Trump.

Check out this retraction where they claimed Trump was bullying Georgia to fabricate voter fraud evidence.
That isn't what the evidence suggests, even from this example from over 4 years ago. From the article you cited, "In a staff meeting Monday afternoon, investigative unit members were told that the retraction did not mean the facts of the story were necessarily wrong. Rather, it meant that "the story wasn't solid enough to publish as-is," one of the people briefed on the investigation said."

So CNN fired some people for prematurely publishing something, not because it wasn't true, but because it didn't go through the CNN vetting protocols. CNN executives found out about it and got pissed, which in and of itself tells you CNN cares about holding to a journalistic standard. FOX on the other hand just makes crap up daily and there is no protocol other than "say Democrats are communists and praise anything Republican."

There were no "lies about Trump" coming from CNN. You probably can't name a single "lie" CNN spread about Trump, and your previous reference to him calling veterans losers isn't a lie, it is supported by multiple sources that span over a long period of time.
ajax18 wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:34 am
Check you this retraction on the Steele Dossier by the Washington Compost.
And instead of quoting the actual source, you rely on another notoriously Right Wing rag to explain it in a hyper partisan manner because that makes you feel good. In reality the Washington Post made corrections to this story for the same reasons CNN did, and it has nothing to do with "finding out they're all lies." That's just a stupid assumption from someone who is so dependent on fake news that he hates the fact that legit news outlets hold to actual standards. Again, FOX wouldn't retract anything it published that was fake, such as their repeated claims that COVID is just like the Flu.

Hell just today we learn that Mark Meadows received texts during the Jan 6th insurrection from numerous FOX News personalities begging him to get Trump to call off the attacks. These texts prove beyond all reasonable doubt that FOX News hosts truly believed Trump supporters were attacking the capitol, but then the very next day they go on air and blame ANTIFA and Democrats. - https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5856 ... jan-6-riot
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:46 am
Maybe he did maybe he didn't, I wasn't there but there were certainly witnesses who said he did.
It'd be interesting to poll how many people on the left still believe the witnesses who claim Michael Brown had his hands up and was surrendering to officer Darrin Wilson when Wilson shot him. It appears Ben Shapiro was right about there being people who still believe this and K Graham is certainly one of them even though Brackite demonstrated though the ballistics evidence that what the witnesses stated was undeniably false. But I'm sure in the mind of these partisan BLM activists they really did perceive Michael Brown with his hands up surrendering when he was shot even though that wasn't even close to what happened in reality. What they saw was what people with a biased, CNN fed visual cortex, would see, which should be a lesson for us when it comes to the weight eye witness testimony should carry.
Earth to idiot, I just said I don't know because I wasn't there so why are you lying about what I believe? The only side that is so certain is the racist side full of folks like you who think that Brown having his hands down somehow vindicates his murder. There are literally dozens and dozens of examples of unarmed black kids being killed by cops and I've mentioned many of them to you and you had absolutely no defense for the cops. Instead you focus on the Michael Brown example, one of hundreds, because you think the inaccuracy of the "hands up don't shoot" slogan somehow negates the fact that the country is full of racist cops who treat black people very differently.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:46 am
It'd be interesting to poll how many people on the left still believe the witnesses who claim Michael Brown had his hands up
Why is this so important to you? I can easily disprove your thesis with a basic google search. Virtually every Left Wing outlet has stated he did not have his hands up, and this based on later evidence. But initially there were two witnesses who said his hands were up and that is what the media reported. Once it was determined that this wasn't the case, they didn't just leave it alone and hope no one would notice (like FOX would do). No, they reported on the evidence to the contrary regardless of which political side it benefited. Sources you consider Left Wing:

https://www.vox.com/2015/5/31/17937818/ ... ren-wilson
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/ar ... th/383157/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/06/us/i ... ports.html
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 ... lence.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fac ... -ferguson/
https://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/ ... lse-216736
https://www.cnn.com/2015/03/05/politics ... index.html
https://www.npr.org/2015/08/08/43041114 ... Old Testament-endures
https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/ ... olumn.html
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Here’s a test. What outlets are reporting this right now?

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Or is this fAkE nEwS?!?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:34 am
Here’s a test. What outlets are reporting this right now?

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Or is this fAkE nEwS?!?

- Doc
Virtually every news outlet is reporting on this, except of course, for Right Wing outlets like FOX. And this is what people like my parents and ajax don't see. Their preferred sources only tell them things if it helps push their right wing political agendas. Anything negative about anyone with an (R) after their name is avoided at all costs.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:34 am
Check out this retraction where they claimed Trump was bullying Georgia to fabricate voter fraud evidence.

https://money.cnn.com/2017/06/26/media/ ... index.html

I think you supplied the wrong link. That article doesn’t mention any retractions regarding Trump having threatened Georgia officials to magically ‘find’ him more votes.

Anyway, plenty of folks in Georgia saw Trump’s actions for what they were -
“I felt then — and still believe today — that this was a threat,” Raffensperger writes. “Others obviously thought so, too, because some of Trump’s more radical followers have responded as if it was their duty to carry out this threat.”
https://apnews.com/article/donald-Trump ... 17648693b7

It’s not as if Raffensperger is some kind of liberal Democratic plant within the party.
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The fact that ajax thinks Trump DIDN'T try to bully Georgia officials to throw the election for him just shows us how detached from reality he really is. For crying out loud we have the entire thing on a recorded phone call. But according to ajax, it is all a lie?

Meanwhile FOX News was just busted for representing the epitome of fake hyper-partisan news when texts were released between Meadows and FOX hosts. The craziness isn't only that FOX people have Trump people on their phones, but that these people acknowledged Trump was screwing up with the insurrection but then immediately went on air to downplay or blame Democrats.

Watch Sean Hannity and Mark Meadows ignore bombshell January 6 texts between them while excusing Donald Trump’s role in the insurrection
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K Graham wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:13 pm
The fact that ajax thinks Trump DIDN'T try to bully Georgia officials to throw the election for him just shows us how detached from reality he really is. For crying out loud we have the entire thing on a recorded phone call. But according to ajax, it is all a lie?

Meanwhile FOX News was just busted for representing the epitome of fake hyper-partisan news when texts were released between Meadows and FOX hosts. The craziness isn't only that FOX people have Trump people on their phones, but that these people acknowledged Trump was screwing up with the insurrection but then immediately went on air to downplay or blame Democrats.

Watch Sean Hannity and Mark Meadows ignore bombshell January 6 texts between them while excusing Donald Trump’s role in the insurrection
Once again, Ajax (among other Conservatives here) doesn’t read:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:00 pm
I really hope the DoJ gets ahold of his and his people’s emails. For example, how did this happen?

https://www.ksl.com/article/50309572/ka ... ud-charges

tl;dr - Kanye West’s publicist shows up to to a Georgia election worker’s house, makes threats against her, and then on January 6th a bunch of people show up to her house and harangue her.

How did Trump’s friend, Kanye West, know to organize people on January 6th in order to harass this election worker? And who were these people, and what were their connections to the Trump administration? I doubt very much this was an organic activity independent of the Trump admin.

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The bombshell report, which proves that America's #1 "news" channel is nothing more than a propaganda tool entirely owned by the Right, was of course ignored tonight at FOX. No wonder Shepherd Smith and Chris Wallace left. These texts prove that FOX hosts are liars who, behind closed doors, say they don't believe their own BS.
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K Graham wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:24 am
The bombshell report, which proves that America's #1 "news" channel is nothing more than a propaganda tool entirely owned by the Right, was of course ignored tonight at FOX. No wonder Shepherd Smith and Chris Wallace left. These texts prove that FOX hosts are liars who, behind closed doors, say they don't believe their own BS.
News outlets generally no longer try to be unbiased. MSNBC, NPR, NYT, etc decided to wage a war on Donald Trump, and even though he has been defeated, they are still in total war mode. 15 years ago I would have said they are easily more objective than FOXNEWS but now they are simply the mirror image of FOX.
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