I never spoke with him about his business dealings

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ceeboo wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:23 pm
Hypothetically speaking, let's say that there has been an ongoing weaponization (and politicization) on the DOJ (and other very powerful governmental agencies) for a long time. Let's say that the current DOJ has been weaponized. Hypothetically, does that mean that you and the other 80 million people who voted Democrat are either ignorant, stupid, insane, an asshole or some combination of those?
Yep. Of course.

Do you plan to move out of hypothetical land and make that case?
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Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:34 pm
ceeboo wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:23 pm
Hypothetically speaking, let's say that there has been an ongoing weaponization (and politicization) on the DOJ (and other very powerful governmental agencies) for a long time. Let's say that the current DOJ has been weaponized. Hypothetically, does that mean that you and the other 80 million people who voted Democrat are either ignorant, stupid, insane, an asshole or some combination of those?
Yep. Of course.
Interesting.

I think quite differently. You see, I think there were a variety of reasons that people voted Democrat and Republican in 2020. If we are going to be honest, there always are various reasons and there will surely continue to be various reasons why people vote the way they do. I do not believe that the voting choices of an individual is tethered to their sanity, or their stupidity, or their ignorance, or their asshole rank. There is little doubt in my mind that there is a tremendous amount of people who are extremely intelligent, reasonable, and sound minded that voted Democrat and that Voted Republican. Given that, I couldn't even imagine calling 80 million people insane assholes for simply voting for Biden.

Simply put, a weaponized DOJ (for example) has nothing to say about anyone who voted for either political party. It has nothing to say because it shouldn't be said. Period. It has everything to say about how all Americans, left/right/middle, will pay the price.
Do you plan to move out of hypothetical land and make that case?
Not yet, I think this discussion has been quite illuminating and it may bring forth more clarity.
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ceeboo wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2023 7:28 pm
You see, I think there were a variety of reasons that people voted Democrat and Republican in 2020. If we are going to be honest, there always are various reasons and there will surely continue to be various reasons why people vote the way they do.
Of course. I was simply categorizing the motivations behind the reasons.
I do not believe that the voting choices of an individual is tethered to their sanity, or their stupidity, or their ignorance, or their asshole rank.
You have a right to your opinion.
There is little doubt in my mind that there is a tremendous amount of people who are extremely intelligent, reasonable, and sound minded that voted Democrat and that Voted Republican.
Dude, people come in numbers, not amounts. You have to puree humans in order to get an amount of humans.

I have no doubt what you're trying to say is true. I put ignorance first on the list because I think that's why most people, left and right, vote the way they do. It's not what they know. It's everything they don't.

I'm not saying an affirmative vote for Biden is a genius move, but given the choices, it seemed pretty clear to most reasonable people what they had to do. A lot of people (like me) had to hold our noses to do it.
Given that, I couldn't even imagine calling 80 million people insane assholes for simply voting for Biden.
I was damned with you. I wanted to see if you'd defend the idea that the current DOJ has been weaponized. It doesn't seem like you're up to it, and that's ok. We can leave it at that.
Simply put, a weaponized DOJ (for example) has nothing to say about anyone who voted for either political party. It has nothing to say because it shouldn't be said. Period. It has everything to say about how all Americans, left/right/middle, will pay the price.
I have no idea what you're trying to say here. It makes no sense.
Do you plan to move out of hypothetical land and make that case?
Not yet, I think this discussion has been quite illuminating and it may bring forth more clarity.
Like I said, I don't expect you to make the case. You can be fine just imagining it.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:16 pm
Dude, people come in numbers, not amounts. You have to puree humans in order to get an amount of humans.
I stand corrected - Thanks!
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:23 pm
Taking the Brietbart article at face value...

Let's say that the text originated from Hunter's phone. Let's say that Joe Biden was sitting right there next to Hunter. Let's take it even further than Brietbart, and assume that Joe Biden actually composed the text himself. What, exactly, did private citizen Joe Biden, who held no political office, do that was illegal here?
You had me stumped for a bit. Ben Shapiro explained on his podcast that it's quite likely that the deal was that China would pay Hunter when Joe was out of office and under less scrutiny. It's also likely that China started thinking that Joe was irrelevant in 2017 and didn't want to pay anymore. Hence Hunter had to really put the heat on him claiming that his Dad still had influence inside the Beltway. It's pretty obvious what's going on. I understand and would agree that if it were a Republican president, I wouldn't want to know about it either. What you can't deny is that we live under a partisan political justice system. Washington is corrupt and I wouldn't doubt that there are RINOs who do similar things to the Bidens. Maybe we should be focusing on what matters, which is the fact that Bidenomics, Bidenflation, the scamdemic, economic shutdowns, open borders, and Biden's foreign policy have been horrendous failures that predictably resulted in a decline in the standard of living for US citizens and will push the national debt to $51 trillion within 10 years.
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I suspect that from now on all Republican Presidential politics will involve fake elector schemes now that it has been popularized by Trump. They have hit their stride with election fraud!!! That seems to be a vast leap up the criminalization scale past previous bogus charges and accusations such as Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi..., although that tired ploy will continue to be their main defense for Trump's wrongdoings.
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ajax18 wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:31 pm
Ben Shapiro explained on his podcast that it's quite likely that the deal was that China would pay Hunter when Joe was out of office and under less scrutiny.
What makes that "likely" when virtually every thing you guys have been promising in terms of whistleblowing bombshells has turned out to be an absolute dud? Shapiro is just imagining a bogus scenario that still attract Trumper morons who keep clinging to this notion that Joe Biden was involved in something shady when all the evidence suggests otherwise. This weeks revelations from Lev Parnas and Jamie Raskin prove that the House GOD has been sitting on and hiding evidence that already exonerated Hunter Biden. And that is the usual, "every accusation is a confession." The guy who supposedly said, via double hearsay, that he had to bribe the Bidens, already stated in an interview with Rudy Giuliani years ago that the Joe Biden had nothing to do with anything regarding Burisma.

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