Trump is not a fascist

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Markk wrote:
Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:00 pm
Focus, it is in context with Garcia having a criminal history, which Kish did not understand. What does not matter in context to what I wrote is that the protective order does not erase his criminal history.

Does he have a criminal history Cakes?
Protective order is generally civil - not criminal. And from what I can find on the Garcia case, it was a civil order.

So still no criminal history. Try again.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:17 pm
Bret Ripley wrote:
Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:40 pm
Yes, I'm familiar with those documents. Garcia's "criminal behavior as a MS-13 gang member" is that he wore a Chicago Bulls hat and an anonymous source claimed he belonged to a New York "clique" of MS-13. Garcia has never even lived in New York, but for my money the Bulls hat alone is reason enough to deprive him of his 5th Amendment right to due process. (I mean the Bulls? Seriously?)
You can try to reason with Markk, but he is impervious to reason. Once he has his teeth into something, he never lets go of it, no matter how many ways and how many times you show him he is wrong. Let's face it, Markk assents to the same kind of "evidence" being used to throw him into a Salvadoran gulag. Baffling I know, but there it is. Markk really doesn't believe in the rule of law. He wants to hand over to unchecked Trump people the identification and ejection of "bad hombres" into inhumane conditions.
Kish, you have not proven anything other that you are married to un-researched social media posts, taken out of context. You just call people names and then double down on things like you did here, a flat out deceptive snippet. I'll give you a chance here to be honest with what you pasted....

Was it correct? Can we agree that given the full context of the reports, does Garcia have a Criminal History? Remember a common theme you and I discuss is that "the cover up is worse than the crime." So can you say you were mistaken and mislead by the snippet, or after all the clear evidence that shows you were mistaken are you going to die on that hill?
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Markk wrote:Kish, you have not proven anything other that you are married to un-researched social media posts, taken out of context. You just call people names and then double down on things like you did here, a flat out deceptive snippet. I'll give you a chance here to be honest with what you pasted....
That is quite the claim. Markk, can you produce any court documents that actually show Garcia has a criminal history? Move beyond FoxNews and the White House Twitter feed?

As noted, the protective order was civil, not criminal.
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¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:07 pm
Markk wrote:
Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:00 pm
Focus, it is in context with Garcia having a criminal history, which Kish did not understand. What does not matter in context to what I wrote is that the protective order does not erase his criminal history.

Does he have a criminal history Cakes?
Protective order is generally civil - not criminal. And from what I can find on the Garcia case, it was a civil order.
His wife declined to pursue a criminal case. According to her, she and her husband went to counseling and were able to work things out.
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¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:07 pm
Markk wrote:
Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:00 pm
Focus, it is in context with Garcia having a criminal history, which Kish did not understand. What does not matter in context to what I wrote is that the protective order does not erase his criminal history.

Does he have a criminal history Cakes?
Protective order is generally civil - not criminal. And from what I can find on the Garcia case, it was a civil order.

So still no criminal history. Try again.
You can ignore that horns are an MS-13 moniker, but it won't change the truth? It simply is the truth.

He was understood by two judges to be an MS-13 gang member, but was released because he claimed if deported he feared for his life by gang members in El Salvador. That is part of his history, as is his violent behavior according to his wife's statements.

But, he was arrested and detained, and refused bond because he was a flight risk because of his failures to appear. in my opinion, that is part of his criminal history....how am I mistaken? especially in that we are debating his criminal history?
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Bret Ripley wrote:
Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:33 pm
¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:07 pm
Protective order is generally civil - not criminal. And from what I can find on the Garcia case, it was a civil order.
His wife declined to pursue a criminal case. According to her, she and her husband went to counseling and were able to work things out.
Yes, work out his beating the crap out of her. That violence alone is grounds for deportation, even if he was here with a green card.
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¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:22 pm
Markk wrote:Kish, you have not proven anything other that you are married to un-researched social media posts, taken out of context. You just call people names and then double down on things like you did here, a flat out deceptive snippet. I'll give you a chance here to be honest with what you pasted....
That is quite the claim. Markk, can you produce any court documents that actually show Garcia has a criminal history? Move beyond FoxNews and the White House Twitter feed?

as noted, the protective order was civil, not criminal.
I have pasted it I think three times. Are failure to appear a crime?

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Yes, in Maryland, failing to appear for a traffic citation is a crime, even if a bench warrant hasn't been issued. Specifically, Section 5-212 of the Maryland Criminal Procedure Code outlines that failure to appear in response to a traffic citation is a misdemeanor. While a bench warrant is a likely consequence, it's not the only one.
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(a) This section does not apply to a citation:

(1) for a violation of a parking ordinance or regulation adopted under Title 26, Subtitle 3 of the Transportation Article;

(2) adopted by the Chief Judge of the District Court under § 1–605(d) of the Courts Article, for use in traffic offenses; or

(3) issued by a Natural Resources police officer under § 1–205 of the Natural Resources Article.

(b) A bench warrant may be issued for the arrest of a defendant who fails to appear in court in response to a citation.

(c) A person who fails to appear in court in response to a citation is guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction is subject to a fine not exceeding $500 or imprisonment not exceeding 90 days or both.
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Markk wrote:
Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:00 pm
canpakes wrote:
Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:53 pm
Congratulations. You’ve reached the point where you’ve started telling people that it doesn’t matter what the law or the courts say, if the government wants to do something different, illegal or unconstitutional.

It’s kind of amazing how easy it is to lead some folks into happily and enthusiastically giving up their civil rights.
Focus, it is in context with Garcia having a criminal history, which Kish did not understand. What does not matter in context to what I wrote is that the protective order does not erase his criminal history.

Does he have a criminal history Cakes?
Did the court rule that he had a protected residency status, Markk?
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¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:22 pm
Markk wrote:Kish, you have not proven anything other that you are married to un-researched social media posts, taken out of context. You just call people names and then double down on things like you did here, a flat out deceptive snippet. I'll give you a chance here to be honest with what you pasted....
That is quite the claim. Markk, can you produce any court documents that actually show Garcia has a criminal history? Move beyond FoxNews and the White House Twitter feed?

as noted, the protective order was civil, not criminal.
Markk can bring the docs. He just can’t interpret them properly.
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Look, Markk is looking for justification. When Trump’s ghouls decide that you need to be out of the country for unpaid parking tickets, Markk is right there pounding the table and whooping in assent. If Trump wants you gone, Markk wants you gone. It is not about having the rule of law to protect us all; it is about using the law, no matter how dubiously or unjustly to be cruel, exercise power arbitrarily, and push people around to show who is in charge. People of this mindset make me ill. They are a blight on the body politic. They are the Dolores Umbridges in our midst. The point is the cruelty. The goal is to take pleasure in inflicting pain on others and to push other people around. Safety is the excuse to do it.
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