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[doubtingthomas]

Who is doing the 'giving'?

Who are these 'friends' you say need to be 'given' to these guys?

Are these human beings you want to 'give' as 'friends'?

How do you think this 'giving' of 'friends' will be enforced?

It's just a goddamn metaphor. Jesus Christ.

I am not advocating for some slave trade.

[doubtingthomas]

Don't ask me. You're the one who is using the term. Social rejection would apply to any example of rejection in a social setting. If you turned down a request for a date, I don't think that would mean society has rejected the person you turned down.

or how about being invisible to almost everyone?

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

You linked me to an article, not the study. Please copy and paste the study here so we can read it - which should be easy because you said you read the study, so just copy and paste it here.

- Doc

Requesting DT copy and paste the study he said he read and linked to in his OP.

- Doc

[Marcus]

Who is doing the 'giving'?

Who are these 'friends' you say need to be 'given' to these guys?

Are these human beings you want to 'give' as 'friends'?

How do you think this 'giving' of 'friends' will be enforced?

It's just a goddamn metaphor. Jesus Christ.

I am not advocating for some slave trade.

No, i don't buy that, you were pretty specific:

But if you want violence to decrease, give the lonely guys some friends.

What solution are you asking for?

[Res Ipsa]

Don't ask me. You're the one who is using the term. Social rejection would apply to any example of rejection in a social setting. If you turned down a request for a date, I don't think that would mean society has rejected the person you turned down.

or how about being invisible to almost everyone?

What does that mean? There are 330 million people in the U.S. Very few of them know that I exist. Am I "invisible" to them?

[Morley]

You linked me to an article, not the study. Please copy and paste the study here so we can read it - which should be easy because you said you read the study, so just copy and paste it here.

- Doc

Requesting DT copy and paste the study he said he read and linked to in his OP.

- Doc

Me, too. I'd like to see if it matches the one I read.

[doubtingthomas]

I'm not going to keep reading things that don't remotely say the things you claim they do.

Jesus Christ

1. Long term loneliness and social exclusion are identical. There's no need for you to be very picky about the wording.

2. The study looks at aggression to predict violent tendencies..

"Perhaps rejection and social exclusion are potential causes of aggressive behavior. The school shooters apparently regarded their actions as responses to rejection by others". https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11761307/

[doubtingthomas]

Requesting DT copy and paste the study he said he read and linked to in his OP.

Here you go buddy,

"Perhaps rejection and social exclusion are potential causes of aggressive behavior. The school shooters apparently regarded their actions as responses to rejection by others". https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11761307/

Read more here "Rejection does cause aggression," according to one of the authors of that study.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 081926.htm

Another study concluded that loneliness (among patients who are depressed) is positively correlated with negative feelings.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4225959/

Anyways, there is an obvious correlation between social exclusion and aggression.

[doubtingthomas]

What does that mean? There are 330 million people in the U.S. Very few of them know that I exist. Am I "invisible" to them?

I don't know, i don't want to engage in a philosophical discussion.

You have to respond to this.

Requesting DT copy and paste the study he said he read and linked to in his OP.

Here you go buddy,

"Perhaps rejection and social exclusion are potential causes of aggressive behavior. The school shooters apparently regarded their actions as responses to rejection by others". https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11761307/

Read more here "Rejection does cause aggression," according to one of the authors of that study.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 081926.htm

Another study concluded that loneliness (among patients who are depressed) is positively correlated with negative feelings.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4225959/

Anyways, there is an obvious correlation between social exclusion and aggression.

The study says that aggression is just as meaningful as physical harm. It basically looks at aggression to predict violence. Read it.

[Gadianton]

Excluded people issued a more negative job evaluation against someone who insulted them.

This is not surprising and some of the instances of workplace violence lately certainly indicate that problem employees should be dealt with carefully. In my experience, companies tip-toe around problem employees not just because of the thread of violence, but legal retaliation. I've seen some spectacular lengths gone to in order to get rid of problem employees at corporate jobs. Almost always they wait until a general rif so that they can just say it had nothing to do with performance but the company was shifting priorities.

And once a person understands this, then they will understand a change of context to dating apps, why women ghost men or make excuses, or lie, or whatever to get out of it.

The answer isn't to force young women to be love slaves to older losers any more than problem employees should be promoted up the chain to make sure they feel included in order to lesson any threat of violence.