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[honorentheos]

Don't be violent.

I understand that, but many people with intellectual disabilities won't.

Why not stop rejecting the people who are socially awkward?

I'm talking with you. Don't be violent just because you are socially awkward and feel rejected.

[Marcus]

...But if you want violence to decrease, give the lonely guys some friends.

So, for example, society could assign you to be a friend to one of these lonely guys who is aggressive and may become violent.

Thinking about how this would work, let's suppose you can't say no to your assignment, and it is your job to alleviate the loneliness of this violent, aggressive guy. You will be alone when you interact with this violent, aggressive guy, so make sure that you be a good friend to him, and provide him with what he needs so that his aggression and violence decrease.

If he ends up being violent or aggressive with you, that is not an excuse to shirk your duty. You must do whatever it takes, in order to decrease his violence and aggression. If you are hurt or killed in the process, it means you failed.

Is that what you mean by "give the lonely guys some friends"??

[doubtingthomas]

So, for example, society could assign you to be a friend to one of these lonely guys who is aggressive and may become violent.

or society could assign me a lonely guy who is not yet aggressive or violent. You can't outthink the outthinker.

I don't reject people who have intellectual disabilities or who are socially awkward.

I when on a date with a girl (23) who has autism, it went pretty well.

[doubtingthomas]

If he ends up being violent or aggressive with you, that is not an excuse to shirk your duty.

is that the reason why society rejects people who are socially awkward?

[doubtingthomas]

Is that what you mean by "give the lonely guys some friends"??

No, I simply think that society should stop rejecting men who are intellectually disabled or socially awkward.

Some women are socially awkward too, but we know damned well that men are far more likely to get rejected by society.

[Res Ipsa]

Is that what you mean by "give the lonely guys some friends"??

No, I simply think that society should stop rejecting men who are intellectually disabled or socially awkward.

Some women are socially awkward too, but we know damned well that men are far more likely to get rejected by society.

What do you mean by "rejected by society?"

[doubtingthomas]

No, I simply think that society should stop rejecting men who are intellectually disabled or socially awkward.

Some women are socially awkward too, but we know damned well that men are far more likely to get rejected by society.

What do you mean by "rejected by society?"

Social rejection?

https://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/04/rejection

[Morley]

You referenced a study that didn't say what you said it did. You didn't know that because you hadn't read the piece. When asked if you'd read it, you claimed that you had. Now you're sending people to chase down other bogus material.

I read the study, but you seem to be more interested in ad hominem attacks.

I admit, I have the habit of not being very precise with my wording sometimes, but I did read the study. Just because the study makes no mention of long-term loneliness doesn't mean that I am wrong about the point.

You will never acknowledge what one of the authors of that study said.

A description of your behavior is not an ad hominem attack.

I'm not going to keep reading things that don't remotely say the things you claim they do. I took a risk and invested the time and effort to read your first study, because I gave you the benefit of the doubt. That was a mistake.

[Res Ipsa]

What do you mean by "rejected by society?"

Social rejection?

https://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/04/rejection

Don't ask me. You're the one who is using the term. Social rejection would apply to any example of rejection in a social setting. If you turned down a request for a date, I don't think that would mean society has rejected the person you turned down.

[Marcus]

Is that what you mean by "give the lonely guys some friends"??

No, I simply think that society should stop rejecting men who are intellectually disabled or socially awkward.

Some women are socially awkward too, but we know damned well that men are far more likely to get rejected by society.

What did you mean, then, when you said this:

But if you want violence to decrease, give the lonely guys some friends.

Who is doing the 'giving'?

Who are these 'friends' you say need to be 'given' to these guys?

Are these human beings you want to 'give' as 'friends'?

How do you think this 'giving' of 'friends' will be enforced?