The Fentanyl Crisis thread

[canpakes]

Come on pakes, then why did the CBP union support Trump and why is moral higher than it has been in years?

Hmmm. I wonder, why would morale be high now amongst a group of folks who signed up for a job to kick Mexicans out of the country, during a change in Administrations to one that will let them now kick the maximum number of Mexicans as they can out of the country, with even fewer restrictions than before and with less chance for repercussions if they were to ‘cross the line’?

This is a difficult question. ; )

[Markk]

You wrote...." To me, an ‘open border’ is found when driving Interstate 10, passing from Arizona and into New Mexico." which is what I meant with even more nuances such as no border patrol and no immigration laws, no restrictions. Anyone from any country can come here and make it there home, just because the want to.

Do you believe this, or should we regulate by law what comes in and out, and who is allowed to live and work here?

You didn’t read what I wrote, did you? Because you just skipped over my answer and did that thing that you always do, where you invent your own answer for someone else when the other person’s answer doesn’t jive with where you want the conversation to go. : D

I read it, it was a word salad. Do you believe that there should be laws, rules, and regulations for anyone entering our country, or not. It is not that hard or or complicated question. Which is it?

[Markk]

Come on pakes, then why did the CBP union support Trump and why is moral higher than it has been in years?

Hmmm. I wonder, why would morale be high now amongst a group of folks who signed up for a job to kick Mexicans out of the country, during a change in Administrations to one that will let them now kick the maximum number of Mexicans as they can out of the country, with even fewer restrictions than before and with less chance for repercussions if they were to ‘cross the line’?

This is a difficult question. ; )

So then your assertion was inaccurate. They signed up, and sworn an oath to enforce the law. Are you saying the should ignore the laws and just remove a percentage of those that break our border laws instead of all who do?

And FYI, there are illegal Mexicans, Africans, Chinese, Hattians, and folks from who knows how many different countries that use the southern border as a conduit to come here illegally.

This ties into my last post, should we just eliminate our laws and let anyone in? Or should we enforce them?

[Markk]

Canpakes wrote: I don’t know if you have any Bosas Donuts locations there like we did in Arizona, but if you do, go there. They’re awesome, and the chain is owned by a Latino family, so get them now before they’re gone. ; )

I have never eaten a donut from there, or heard of the chain. But I did do a quick google search of them and it appears they make a great donut.

However from what I read they were founded by Jackson Chao, a Cambodian.

The restaurant, which has more than 20 locations around the Valley, is scheduled to open in the first quarter of 2023 according to founder and licensor Jackson Chao.

https://www.inmaricopa.com/arizona-favo ... New Testament-lineup/

[Markk]

I'll ask again the question no one her seems grounded enough in their positions and politics to answer, do you believe that all borders should be wide open, or in other words no more borders.

If I understand you correctly, no. I don't believe there should be no more borders.

Kindly answer this question:

Do you think there are wide open borders right now? If so, how are they wide open?

When I say no more borders I mean no sovereign countries so to speak. No enforcement laws, no rules....anyone can just go an leave where the want. I suppose it would mean no real citizenship.

If you mean physically, I believe the southern is mostly open on either side of the Rio Grande, with farmland and desert on either sides. The Canadian border from a quick google earth appears to be wide open for the very very very most part, even if in very rough mountainous regions.

I was referring to the former, dissolving sovereign countries. Do you believe we should have immigrations laws?

So given you believe that there should be borders....should we enforce the current laws in place?

[Markk]

pakes Yes, I mentioned that. Then you stepped in to tell me that you think that Trump thinks up all of his policy details all by his narcissistic self.

Not really. I said that the heritage foundation were not the architect of his policies. Which they are not. Right or wrong he is a leader....everything goes through him, and like any good business man they find, hopefully, very smart people to carry out their business model and plan. Does he have advisors for his plans, sure, but not architects of his plan or business model.

What he is doing is his plan, his business model and nobody else's, To Make America Great Again, I believe that. Where did I write "policy details?" You just made that up like the donut guy thing. Trump is at top of the chain of command so to speak, details come down the chain all the way to execution and QC.

[canpakes]

You didn’t read what I wrote, did you? Because you just skipped over my answer and did that thing that you always do, where you invent your own answer for someone else when the other person’s answer doesn’t jive with where you want the conversation to go. : D

I read it, it was a word salad. Do you believe that there should be laws, rules, and regulations for anyone entering our country, or not. It is not that hard or or complicated question. Which is it?

I’ll repeat what you called a word salad, when you asked if we should have ‘open borders’:

“I’d guess that most folks will answer according to their local situation. Does the border between Yukon and Canada need a wall? Doubtful. Does some means of control prove useful where there’s significant travel to monitor, like El Paso? Absolutely.”

I trust that you can figure that statement out. : D

[canpakes]

I said that the heritage foundation were not the architect of his policies. Which they are not. Right or wrong he is a leader....everything goes through him, and like any good business man they find, hopefully, very smart people to carry out their business model and plan. Does he have advisors for his plans, sure, but not architects of his plan or business model.

What he is doing is his plan, his business model and nobody else's, To Make America Great Again, I believe that. Where did I write "policy details?" You just made that up like the donut guy thing. Trump is at top of the chain of command so to speak, details come down the chain all the way to execution and QC.

Alright, you’ve convinced me that you believe that Trump has coincidentally hired dozens of people who authored specific policy statements and sections within the Project 2025 document, with their policies subsequently becoming part of the new Administration, because he has nothing to do with Project 2025, yet wants these policies enacted because he actually thought them up first, and just told the Project 2025 folks to include it in their plan so that he could claim that he never heard of these plans later. That, and because he’s shy about being the author of all of these policies that are exactly the same as what was found in Project 2025 when it was published over a year ago. But, yeah - there’s no connection at all, it’s just the same approaches, nearly word for word, policy by policy, strictly by chance.

Now that you’ve established who is responsible, are you telling me that The Architect - the Mighty Lyin’ King himself - either cared not to develop any fentanyl crisis plan other than Mass Deportations!! or Tariffs!!, or that he simply didn’t think that the crisis was worth any more thinking than that?

I’m getting the distinct impression that Trump either doesn’t know how to address the problem in any sort of multifaceted way, or simply doesn’t care.

[Markk]

I read it, it was a word salad. Do you believe that there should be laws, rules, and regulations for anyone entering our country, or not. It is not that hard or or complicated question. Which is it?

I’ll repeat what you called a word salad, when you asked if we should have ‘open borders’:

“I’d guess that most folks will answer according to their local situation. Does the border between Yukon and Canada need a wall? Doubtful. Does some means of control prove useful where there’s significant travel to monitor, like El Paso? Absolutely.”

I trust that you can figure that statement out. : D

I thought you were a little more up to speed....

This is the general definition what is meant by an open border, from wikipedia.

An open border is a border that enables free movement of people (and often of goods) between jurisdictions with no restrictions on movement and is lacking substantive border control.


I am taking it a bit further is asking you no CBP at all.

It is not really a hard question to answer.

[canpakes]

I’ll repeat what you called a word salad, when you asked if we should have ‘open borders’:

“I’d guess that most folks will answer according to their local situation. Does the border between Yukon and Canada need a wall? Doubtful. Does some means of control prove useful where there’s significant travel to monitor, like El Paso? Absolutely.”

I trust that you can figure that statement out. : D

I thought you were a little more up to speed....

This is the general definition what is meant by an open border, from wikipedia.

An open border is a border that enables free movement of people (and often of goods) between jurisdictions with no restrictions on movement and is lacking substantive border control.


I am taking it a bit further is asking you no CBP at all.

It is not really a hard question to answer.

Easy. I’ve already answered that new, related question, as the answer is implied by the second half of my statement.

The person needing to ‘get up to speed’ does not appear to be the person answering your questions before you even ask them. : D