Certain people can't ever get it right

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mentalgymnast
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Re: Certain people can't ever get it right

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Morley wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:52 am
mentalgymnast wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:35 am


Has there been a time when I’ve said that I will revisit or answer a limited set of questions and haven’t? If so, that would actually surprise me. I try to follow through on actual commitments made.

I’m thinking there must be some other reason you would rather not ask your question or two at this point. One can only guess.
Since you can't just let this go, MG, here it is.
That’s rich, coming from the guy that pestered me to answer ALL of his questions. NOW.
Morley wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:52 am
I really don't have any reason to rephrase a question you've previously said you didn't want to answer. If you wanted to answer it, you would have already. If you've changed your mind about answering it, you would go back and look at it, now. It's plain you don't.
Weasel words.
Morley wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:52 am
To the other point, more than once you've promised to answer a question if I would just answer yours. It was too often a promise you didn't keep. When I called you on it, you gave the same kind of brush-off you gave this time (when you said you don't get all your questions answered, either). Other times you've bailed without answering because you thought others were being mean to you. Even other times, you've changed the subject when things got uncomfortable and then you haven't returned to something you said you would. So, I'm learning to bail when you start doing one of these things in a thread.
Examples and dates. You’re throwing crap out there hoping it will stick. As a thread continues and I seem to be making people uncomfortable that seems to be par for the course. Of course I’m not going to have anyone agree with me. Wrong echo chamber.
Morley wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:52 am
I'm sure others have had similar experiences.
Of course you are, and I’m sure they will be more than happy to add to the heap.
Morley wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:52 am
If all this makes me binary and you nuanced, so be it. Like honor, I'm glad to be whatever it is that you're calling binary.


Along with Lemming and some others it seems that you have not actually read my posts without taking what you will out of context, mish-mashing it, and then putting words into my mouth that are inaccurate.

We’re not going anywhere useful at this point folks. I enjoyed the earlier conversation but now we’re slipping into personal...and may I say, fabricated...insinuations and insults. Maybe time to call a truce?

Try again another time? Religion and politics really do get folks riled up and on the defensive. The ‘other’ becomes the avowed enemy.

Time to call it a day?

Regards,
MG
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Re: Certain people can't ever get it right

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Morley wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:52 am
mentalgymnast wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:35 am


Has there been a time when I’ve said that I will revisit or answer a limited set of questions and haven’t? If so, that would actually surprise me. I try to follow through on actual commitments made.

I’m thinking there must be some other reason you would rather not ask your question or two at this point. One can only guess.
Since you can't just let this go, MG, here it is.

I really don't have any reason to rephrase a question you've previously said you didn't want to answer. If you wanted to answer it, you would have already. If you've changed your mind about answering it, you would go back and look at it, now. It's plain you don't.

To the other point, more than once you've promised to answer a question if I would just answer yours. It was too often a promise you didn't keep. When I called you on it, you gave the same kind of brush-off you gave this time (when you said you don't get all your questions answered, either). Other times you've bailed without answering because you thought others were being mean to you. Even other times, you've changed the subject when things got uncomfortable and then you haven't returned to something you said you would. So, I'm learning to bail when you start doing one of these things in a thread.

I'm sure others have had similar experiences.
Over and over and over. Ad nauseam.
If all this makes me binary and you nuanced, so be it. Like honor, I'm glad to be whatever it is that you're calling binary.
Right there with you.

"The list is long, but distinguished!" :lol:
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Re: Certain people can't ever get it right

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mentalgymnast wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:02 am
Chap wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:12 pm
Consider that deeply Christian city, with very strict laws against murder, theft and so on - medieval London. Lots of churches, plenty of priests to preach the gospel, and all the rest. Must've been a good, safe place to live, where people were nice to each other? Hmmm
19 For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father.
(Mosiah 3:19)

https://bookofmormonstudynotes.blog/201 ... osiah-319/

Something was missing from early old England there, jolly ol’chap. For one thing I’d imagine that the spirit of the gospel/Lord didn’t get around much to the common folk. Corrupt priests. Lack of availability to the word of God. Makes one wonder if the Holy Bible hadn’t made it all the way through a lot of this mess and become available to the common man what things would be like today. To my understanding the Bible and it’s teachings played a major role in the development of western values, and societies based upon the rule of law, justice, and mercy.

Regards,
MG
Well, with MG it is definitely precept upon precept, line on line ...

To the things we have learned so far, we can now add:

(I've lost count). The Judaeo-Christian religious tradition is not enough to make people behave nicely to one another after all (so presumably us ex-theists are no long obliged to feel grateful to it for stopping us enjoying ourselves with the odd spot of murder and rape). You really need to be Protestant to get the benefits.

And I'm beginning to wonder how long it will be that it is vouchsafed unto us that you really need to be Mormon too. All in good time.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Mayan Elephant:
Not only have I denounced the Big Lie, I have denounced the Big lie big lie.
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Re: Certain people can't ever get it right

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Chap wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:40 am

Well, with MG it is definitely precept upon precept, line on line ...
Yes, I would say that more often than not this is true. And even then, things are subject to change. Life is fluid. And so are people. If the end was revealed before the beginning and the middle and everything in between, then what would be the result?

Regards,
MG
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Re: Certain people can't ever get it right

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mentalgymnast wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:34 pm
Chap wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:40 am

Well, with MG it is definitely precept upon precept, line on line ...
Yes, I would say that more often than not this is true. And even then, things are subject to change. Life is fluid. And so are people. If the end was revealed before the beginning and the middle and everything in between, then what would be the result?

Regards,
MG
https://www.gotquestions.org/Enlightenm ... anity.html

Not the best treatment of the subject but one I thought MG could tolerate and it might get through.
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Re: Certain people can't ever get it right

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honorentheos wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:57 pm
mentalgymnast wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:34 pm


Yes, I would say that more often than not this is true. And even then, things are subject to change. Life is fluid. And so are people. If the end was revealed before the beginning and the middle and everything in between, then what would be the result?

Regards,
MG
https://www.gotquestions.org/Enlightenm ... anity.html
Well, your local fraudster would ask in response to your link...how does this answer my question?

The Enlightenment demonstrates my point. Doesn’t it?

Just messin’ with ya on the fraudster thing. Someone around here recently called me a fraud. 😉

by the way, how do I know you’re not a fraud of some stripe? Just sayin’. 😉

Do you think the Enlightenment was something that could or should have been avoided?

Regards,
MG
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Re: Certain people can't ever get it right

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honorentheos wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:57 pm

Not the best treatment of the subject but one I thought MG could tolerate and it might get through.
Well, guffaw...thanks!

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MG
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Re: Certain people can't ever get it right

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Chap wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:40 am
mentalgymnast wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:02 am
Something was missing from early old England there, jolly ol’chap. For one thing I’d imagine that the spirit of the gospel/Lord didn’t get around much to the common folk. Corrupt priests. Lack of availability to the word of God. Makes one wonder if the Holy Bible hadn’t made it all the way through a lot of this mess and become available to the common man what things would be like today. To my understanding the Bible and it’s teachings played a major role in the development of western values, and societies based upon the rule of law, justice, and mercy.

Regards,
MG
Well, with MG it is definitely precept upon precept, line on line ...

To the things we have learned so far, we can now add:

(I've lost count). The Judaeo-Christian religious tradition is not enough to make people behave nicely to one another after all (so presumably us ex-theists are no long obliged to feel grateful to it for stopping us enjoying ourselves with the odd spot of murder and rape). You really need to be Protestant to get the benefits.

And I'm beginning to wonder how long it will be that it is vouchsafed unto us that you really need to be Mormon too. All in good time.
mentalgymnast wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:34 pm
Chap wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:40 am
Well, with MG it is definitely precept upon precept, line on line ...
Yes, I would say that more often than not this is true. And even then, things are subject to change. Life is fluid. And so are people. If the end was revealed before the beginning and the middle and everything in between, then what would be the result?

Regards,
MG
honorentheos wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:57 pm
https://www.gotquestions.org/Enlightenm ... anity.html

Not the best treatment of the subject but one I thought MG could tolerate and it might get through.
Given that he used ellipses to take --yet again-- someone's comment completely out of context, it's all the effort such disingenuousness deserves.
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Re: Certain people can't ever get it right

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Lem wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:27 pm
Given that he used ellipses to take --yet again-- someone's comment completely out of context, it's all the effort such disingenuousness deserves.
Yes, he does that quite a lot.

But then if you reply to his remark with the full text of the post to which he purports to be responding shown before his reply, his post is made to appear for what it is.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Mayan Elephant:
Not only have I denounced the Big Lie, I have denounced the Big lie big lie.
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Re: Certain people can't ever get it right

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Chap wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:53 pm
Lem wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:27 pm
Given that he used ellipses to take --yet again-- someone's comment completely out of context, it's all the effort such disingenuousness deserves.
Yes, he does that quite a lot.

But then if you reply to his remark with the full text of the post to which he purports to be responding shown before his reply, his post is made to appear for what it is.

I would have no problem with that. My response would be the same. And I’ll stick by it. 🙂

Regards,
MG
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