Mr. Itchy, Response and dialog.

[_Ray A]

I think the blog (Mr.Itchy's) is only going to inflame matters (and I have had a look at it, but at Keene's request won't post the URL). It's "juicy gossip", just like Scratch's, but I really wonder about the wisdom of this, on either side. The problem is that they are all one-sided accounts, and with the exception of posters like Pahoran, they are unlikely to try to defend themselves. Digging up people's posts, past, present, or elsewhere, and trying to put them in a bad light, or exposing private emails, is shoddy business. It's nasty business. People post on the net forums trusting, in good faith, that others will benefit from what they post, and they expose their souls in good faith and trust, only to be betrayed, and taken out of context. I hope that this will end, because all it may do is make people more reserved in what they say, and they will never be able to relate personal experiences for the fear of being distorted. I don't think any less, maybe even more, of the people subjected to this harrassment. The problem is that what some do "in good fun" and for "gossip juice" can hurt people, it can hurt their feelings. I'm not justifying either side, but in my opinion when someone is subjected to this kind of judgement and harrassment and distortion, my sympathies will be more with them, and I don't care which ideology they espouse. They become victims.

[_beastie]

I wonder what Jesus would have to say about people who engage in bad behavior and then excuse it by claiming they are "mirroring" someone else's behavior in order to (cough cough) "teach" them a lesson. Just imagine this conversation:

Jesus, questioning someone at St. Peter's Gate:

Jesus: Look, Itchy, I'm not too happy about the fact that you cheated on your wife. Didn't I teach you not to do that, and didn't you claim to be my follower?

Cheating Husband: My wife cheated on me first. I was just providing a "mirror" to her in order to "teach" her a lesson.

Jesus: WTF?

[_Runtu]

I wonder what Jesus would have to say about people who engage in bad behavior and then excuse it by claiming they are "mirroring" someone else's behavior in order to (cough cough) "teach" them a lesson. Just imagine this conversation:

Jesus, questioning someone at St. Peter's Gate:

Jesus: Look, Itchy, I'm not too happy about the fact that you cheated on your wife. Didn't I teach you not to do that, and didn't you claim to be my follower?

Cheating Husband: My wife cheated on me first. I was just providing a "mirror" to her in order to "teach" her a lesson.

Jesus: WTF?

Oddly enough, the "lesson" was already learned, as Scratch took all references to people's names off his blog and instead focused on posting history and style, which is fair game. Apparently, Mr Itchy is either too stupid or spiteful to understand that no lesson need be learned, particularly when the people he's picking on played no part in Scratch's blog.

Yeah, I suspect Jesus would have a few words for someone that vindictive.

[_OUT OF MY MISERY]

I'd still rather not announce to the world where his blog is, because he still has the personal information of our posters on it. Unfortunately, this guy continuously posts it on other boards as well as this one.

As for fighting fire with fire -- I easily could reveal who "Mr. Itchy" is, but I'd rather not stoop to his level. It's just childish. "You started it!" Ugh. No, if Mr. Itchy would like to discuss things rationally, that's fine, but his childish antics aren't going to bring me down.

"Never fight a battle of wits against an unarmed foe."

I've currently got a legal team working on the case for the safety of our posters, but you've also got to keep your own safety in mind. The internet is risky business, there will always be stalkers and stupid people out there, and there is a wide variety of tools out there to dig up your information. Be careful about what you put out there, and remember that almost anything can be cross-referenced to find you. Hell, if you google my name, you'll get my phone number in the top 3 results.

Don't call unless you're pretty. ;)

I trust you right now...Keene

You have done nothing to break my trust in you...I actually found Itchy;s blog site it was kinda of scary.

I know how easy it is to track people on the internet only to well..

I have tracked a few things down myself...I was tthreatened...everyone sounds so surprised at how much information is out there and everything is PUBLIC RECORD....nothing is really private anymore,,,thanks to the Patriot ACt...

I am working with a lawyer myself trying to keep my family protected....so I trust you KEEENE..you have done nothing to except respect my privacy

And I am with you I do not want to fight fire with fire...either

There are too many bullies out there...trust me I know...I am currently staying close to home...right now...I am allowing an investigation to take place before I pursue any legal action against the person that threatened me and my family...

So be careful Keene

[_Mister Scratch]

I think the blog (Mr.Itchy's) is only going to inflame matters (and I have had a look at it, but at Keene's request won't post the URL). It's "juicy gossip", just like Scratch's, but I really wonder about the wisdom of this, on either side. The problem is that they are all one-sided accounts, and with the exception of posters like Pahoran, they are unlikely to try to defend themselves. Digging up people's posts, past, present, or elsewhere, and trying to put them in a bad light, or exposing private emails, is shoddy business. It's nasty business. People post on the net forums trusting, in good faith, that others will benefit from what they post, and they expose their souls in good faith and trust, only to be betrayed, and taken out of context. I hope that this will end, because all it may do is make people more reserved in what they say, and they will never be able to relate personal experiences for the fear of being distorted. I don't think any less, maybe even more, of the people subjected to this harrassment. The problem is that what some do "in good fun" and for "gossip juice" can hurt people, it can hurt their feelings. I'm not justifying either side, but in my opinion when someone is subjected to this kind of judgement and harrassment and distortion, my sympathies will be more with them, and I don't care which ideology they espouse. They become victims.

I think you make a good point, Ray, and my intention with the blog was never to hurt anybody's feelings. Moreover, my aim isn't to "put them in a bad light." Some of the dossiers are friendly, some are more critical. The bottomline is that these are reflections of the posters themselves. Additionally, I have from day one been open to revising anything on the blog. I have made significant revisions to the dossiers of: Pahoran, DaddyMO, DCP, juliann, and several others. Among all the material on the blog, including over twenty dossiers, I have received a grand total of two legitimate complaints: one from Pah, and one from DaddyMO, and I revised both of their dossiers. Other people, such as "Mrs. Robbins" (who is probably also "Randall," in my opinion), and smac, just showed up to whine---they didn't offer any specific suggestions, they just objected to the blog writ-large. They want the blog to vanish entirely. As it happens, I have told Dr. Shades that he may remove the blog at any time he sees fit. Ultimately, though, it seems that most people enjoy it, and understand that it is primarily for entertainment and information. It's not meant to be mean or hurtful, and if anyone feels that way, contact me, and we can work on fixing it.

That said, I cannot help but feel that there is an underlying agitation on the part of the ironically named FAIRboard in all of this. They treat people badly and unfairly, and yet get bent out of shape when they are subjected to critical scrutiny? Let me just say, once again, that I am totally open to negotiation and reciprocity.

[_moksha]

Itchy and Scratchy. Now there needs to be a Disharmony, a Lemontator, a Vegas Exile, a Dr. Sunlight and a Nirvana. Bizarro World imitation is the sincerest form of flatulence.

[_beastie]

http://whois.domaintools.com/morondiscussions.com

[_Jersey Girl]

beastie,

I looked at the link you supplied. I have no idea what any of that means. Can you interpret for the technologically-challenged?

Jersey Girl

[_Bryan Inks]

beastie,

I looked at the link you supplied. I have no idea what any of that means. Can you interpret for the technologically-challenged?

Jersey Girl

Basically, it is a rundown of the public information about the website.

Section 1: Front Page Information

This is basically a simple overview of the website, what it is supposed to be doing and how effective it is at doing so.

Section 2: Server Data

This is the down-low on the server the site is hosted on. It used Apache (fairly common) and the server is located in Michigan. It does not have a SSL but that isn't really an issue unless they are selling something or have downloads.

Section 3: Registry Data

This is the information about the site registration. All this section is really useful for is finding out the registrar.

Section 4: DomainTools Exclusive

Not really important to us at all.

Section 5: Whois Record

This is further details on Section 3: Registry Data. It tells us that whomever Mr. Itchy is, he used a proxy service to purchase the domain through GoDaddy.

[_beastie]

Naw, I was hoping someone else could. At first I thought the link demonstrated the blog originated in Michigan, but I'm guessing that could be a proxy. There's a bunch of IP addresses, but from what others have said on there, I think they can be faked.

Let's just say that whoever it is really, really, really wants to keep his identity a secret.