Marrying a Mormon -- Blogcapades!

Post by **_truth dancer** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:18 pm

Hey MM...

BIG CONGRATULATIONS!

~dancer~

Post by **_MormonMendacity** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:36 pm

truth dancer wrote:Hey MM...

BIG CONGRATULATIONS!

~dancer~

Thanks! She is an amazing woman and I hope the "fertimeandalleternity" thing works this time!

_Ray A · Post by **_Ray A** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:55 pm

Bryan Inks wrote:
He's not the first. My wife is TBM and married me despite my being "anti-mormon".

That's good to hear. I don't know how you people do it, but when a relationship takes precedence over a belief, it would have to be strong. The usual story is divorce when one partner loses faith.

Post by **_keene** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:03 pm

Ray A wrote:
Bryan Inks wrote:
He's not the first. My wife is TBM and married me despite my being "anti-mormon".

That's good to hear. I don't know how you people do it, but when a relationship takes precedence over a belief, it would have to be strong. The usual story is divorce when one partner loses faith.

I simply can't see how a belief can be stronger than love. Emotionally and chemically speaking, a testimony is created through self-hypnosis, creating a state of euphoria -- not really evolutionarily sound. Love, on the other hand, is created to impress upon one the need and desire to procreate, which is a much stronger chemical feeling. Logistically, it just doesn't make sense to me. Unless you're REALLY good at self hypnosis.

Even then, the two feelings shouldn't be at odds, they're different feelings for different times -- it's only when you try to attach those feelings to specific situations that issues start coming. If you enjoy the feeling for what it is, then you'll never have problems.

Post by **_Who Knows** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:22 pm

keene wrote:I simply can't see how a belief can be stronger than love. Emotionally and chemically speaking, a testimony is created through self-hypnosis, creating a state of euphoria -- not really evolutionarily sound. Love, on the other hand, is created to impress upon one the need and desire to procreate, which is a much stronger chemical feeling. Logistically, it just doesn't make sense to me. Unless you're REALLY good at self hypnosis.

Even then, the two feelings shouldn't be at odds, they're different feelings for different times -- it's only when you try to attach those feelings to specific situations that issues start coming. If you enjoy the feeling for what it is, then you'll never have problems.

It'll be easier for you with your fiance knowing your feelings about the church going into the marriage.

I think it's only really a huge (potentially devastating) issue when 2 people get married in the temple, and then later on one of them decides to leave the church (a la me).

_Ray A · Post by **_Ray A** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:26 pm

keene wrote:Even then, the two feelings shouldn't be at odds, they're different feelings for different times -- it's only when you try to attach those feelings to specific situations that issues start coming. If you enjoy the feeling for what it is, then you'll never have problems.

Unfortunately I've never been in romantic love, as shocking as that may sound, since I was married for 22 years. I/we had a "church marriage", got along very well as friends, had similar (LDS) beliefs, both served missions, etc., but when the basic beliefs went we stayed together mainly because of the children (five of them), and in fact were like chalk and cheese in personality likes and dislikes. So I've never met what people call a "soulmate", nor experienced romantic love. I guess if you have that strong bond, as you two appear to, no obstacle is too great. In the church, too often, young people rush into marriage because of pressure, both family and self-generated pressure - "find that soulmate to go to the CK with". The LDS divorce rate is the same as the US national average (with, apparently, the exception of strong temple goers), so I wonder how much the beliefs really cement relationships. I think unless it's built on real personality compatibility and love it has a much higher chance of failure. The best part of marriage for me was the children, and 28 years later I'm still raising the last child, and enjoying it. The love I feel for my children, and now grandchildren, surpasses anything I know, and makes life worth living. That is the love I have experienced.

_Ray A · Post by **_Ray A** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:30 pm

MormonMendacity wrote:My fiancée and I are getting married tomorrow.

Congrats, and all the best.

Post by **_Mister Scratch** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:40 pm

Ray A wrote:
keene wrote:She, uh... Doesn't care. I just asked.

I don't swear all that much -- when I do, it has a purpose.

Her stepdad, though, that's a different story. I said "pissed" and he went "I'm sorry, what was that? Did you say offended?"

That was when he was being nice, for company. He's a TBM in the style of "If you're not Mormon, I will yell at you and threaten you until you are."

I've had some fun fights with him. They'll be in the blog soon.

I'll be following your blog with interest. A TBM marrying an anti-Mormon (by your own admission). Well there goes all the stereotypes.

You know, I can sort of understand how this could happen. It makes a certain amount of sense to me that a TBM female would be willing to marry an anti man. The reverse, however, strikes me as being almost fundamentally impossible. I just can't imagine a TBM, priesthood holding male marrying an anti-Mormon female.

Post by **_harmony** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:21 pm

The LDS divorce rate is the same as the US national average (with, apparently, the exception of strong temple goers), so I wonder how much the beliefs really cement relationships.

We have no way of knowing what divorce rates are for temple goers. Those numbers are never released to the public.

Post by **_keene** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:57 am

Mr Itchy over at his blog felt he needed to contragulate me on my wedding. Here's his post:

We editors of Mr. Itchy's blog would like to congratulate Keene (The Internet Bully) on his upcoming nuptials. We just hope he doesn't try to bully her like he has tried to do to other women and children, and us. We do, however, have some concerns about the blessed event. At this time when he should be fantasizing about his future wife, he is fantasizing about us editors at Mr. Itchy's guide to the morons at mormondiscussions.com. See it here first: Keene's perverted fantasy in his own words he, "*suddenly gets an image of Mr. Itchy ma*******ing, using his tears as lubricant, constantly screaming 'I'm sorry, Jesus!!'*."

Interesting imagination! This is the best morons at mormondiscussions.com have to offer and a testament to the depravity that goes on there! Truly good stuff. Really.

Her mom apparently thinks I will end up bullying her as well, as you can read in my blog. She asked things like "Will he let you go to church?" and 'Will he let you pay tithing?" As if I could stop her.

As for the rest of the post, I have an issue with what he said. Not because he's making fun of me, that's all well and good. What I have issue with is what he thinks I "Should" be doing. "Should" is, in my mind, the worst word in the human language. It assumes an authority that simply isn't there. How does Mr. Itchy know what I should or should not be doing? Maybe my interesting imagination is a gift from God, and I should magnify it, as in the parable of the Talents! You never know. One day, my depraved imagination may save us all from nuclear holocaust. Then what'll Jesus say? "You saved billions of lives! But, you did once think about masturbating. Off to hell with ye!"

Actually, that'd be pretty funny.