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QUOTE(Ref @ Dec 1 2006, 09:16 PM)
For someone who is supposed to be as well educated and literate as you proclaim, you may want to review the question I posed above. “Where can HEAR about many of the things that FARMS can even find a forum for?”
I guess it's my literacy that's preventing me from understanding your question.
“Where can HEAR about many of the things that FARMS can even find a forum for?”
What on earth does that even mean? I can't decipher it.
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I recognize that Clark and Sorenson have written many articles for FARMS on Book of Mormon archaeology. But, as you have already admitted to, such articles have been ignored by the secular academic community. So, other than this board, where can we “HEAR” about this information??!! Simple question.
Because the secular community, by and large, is unaware of their expressly Book of Mormon articles, you think that you can only HEAR about relevant facts HERE?
Weird.
You could, like, um, subscribe to the journals that they publish in, you know? You can, like, you know, look at the FARMS web page?
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If that’s what gets you out of answering some fairly obvious direct questions, then take the “tenure” way out (although I did not know “associate professors” had that to their disposal at most universities!).
Are you writing in English? "Take the tenure way out"? As in "take the tenure to an extended distance"? Or as in "take the tenure method of exit"? "Exit" from what? Are you from Planet Zarkon, too? How can "tenure" be stretched out? How can "tenure" help me to "exit" from your manifestly obsessive interest in my daily schedule? What in the world are you talking about?
Incidentally, I'm a full professor, and have been for several years now. But it's really striking to see how fascinated you are by me. You've really been doing your research. Do you go through my garbage cans? Good thing I've got a shredder. Is that you parked across the street? Just don't try to interview the little kids in our neighborhood, though. The parents are likely to report you.
You're creeping me out, Ref. Remember: I've got a dog and several guns.
From Daniel Peterson again
For someone who is supposed to be as well educated and literate as you proclaim, you may want to review the question I posed above. “Where can HEAR about many of the things that FARMS can even find a forum for?”
I guess it's my literacy that's preventing me from understanding your question.
“Where can HEAR about many of the things that FARMS can even find a forum for?”
What on earth does that even mean? I can't decipher it.
QUOTE(Ref @ Dec 1 2006, 09:16 PM)
I recognize that Clark and Sorenson have written many articles for FARMS on Book of Mormon archaeology. But, as you have already admitted to, such articles have been ignored by the secular academic community. So, other than this board, where can we “HEAR” about this information??!! Simple question.
Because the secular community, by and large, is unaware of their expressly Book of Mormon articles, you think that you can only HEAR about relevant facts HERE?
Weird.
You could, like, um, subscribe to the journals that they publish in, you know? You can, like, you know, look at the FARMS web page?
QUOTE(Ref @ Dec 1 2006, 09:16 PM)
If that’s what gets you out of answering some fairly obvious direct questions, then take the “tenure” way out (although I did not know “associate professors” had that to their disposal at most universities!).
Are you writing in English? "Take the tenure way out"? As in "take the tenure to an extended distance"? Or as in "take the tenure method of exit"? "Exit" from what? Are you from Planet Zarkon, too? How can "tenure" be stretched out? How can "tenure" help me to "exit" from your manifestly obsessive interest in my daily schedule? What in the world are you talking about?
Incidentally, I'm a full professor, and have been for several years now. But it's really striking to see how fascinated you are by me. You've really been doing your research. Do you go through my garbage cans? Good thing I've got a shredder. Is that you parked across the street? Just don't try to interview the little kids in our neighborhood, though. The parents are likely to report you.
You're creeping me out, Ref. Remember: I've got a dog and several guns.
From Daniel Peterson again
When I wake up I will be hungry....but this feels so good right now aaahhhhhh........
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As I have said many times before, this seems to be the only place where we even hear about many of the things that FARMS et.al. can even find a forum for!!!!! IE: Book of Mormon Archaeology
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You could try reading Professor Sorenson's books and articles. You could try reading Professor Clark's articles in BYU Studies and in the Journal of Book of Mormon Studies.
For someone who is supposed to be as well educated and literate as you proclaim, you may want to review the question I posed above. “Where can HEAR about many of the things that FARMS can even find a forum for?”
I recognize that Clark and Sorenson have written many articles for FARMS on Book of Mormon archaeology. But, as you have already admitted to, such articles have been ignored by the secular academic community. So, other than this board, where can we “HEAR” about this information??!! Simple question.
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Do I need to report you as a stalker, Ref? You're creeping me out.
If that’s what gets you out of answering some fairly obvious direct questions, then take the “tenure” way out (although I did not know “associate professors” had that to their disposal at most universities!).
Ref I'm not going to let you come into two threads guns a blazing just to push your agenda. We have had enough of your kind here on this board. You can say goodbye now. Wait no you can't!
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As I have said many times before, this seems to be the only place where we even hear about many of the things that FARMS et.al. can even find a forum for!!!!! IE: Book of Mormon Archaeology
QUOTE(Daniel Peterson)
You could try reading Professor Sorenson's books and articles. You could try reading Professor Clark's articles in BYU Studies and in the Journal of Book of Mormon Studies.
For someone who is supposed to be as well educated and literate as you proclaim, you may want to review the question I posed above. “Where can HEAR about many of the things that FARMS can even find a forum for?”
I recognize that Clark and Sorenson have written many articles for FARMS on Book of Mormon archaeology. But, as you have already admitted to, such articles have been ignored by the secular academic community. So, other than this board, where can we “HEAR” about this information??!! Simple question.
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Do I need to report you as a stalker, Ref? You're creeping me out.
If that’s what gets you out of answering some fairly obvious direct questions, then take the “tenure” way out (although I did not know “associate professors” had that to their disposal at most universities!).
Ref I'm not going to let you come into two threads guns a blazing just to push your agenda. We have had enough of your kind here on this board. You can say goodbye now. Wait no you can't!
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SMART BITCH wrote:Post #11 from Daniel Peterson-----yesterday 9:14 pm
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As I've said before, you appear to believe that Bill Hamblin and I and the other editors of the FARMS Review conspired together either to invent Michael Watson's second letter whole cloth or, at least, to substantially misrepresent its contents.
As I have also said before, Professor Hamblin quoted every single word of the letter in his article, apart from its greeting, its date, and its signature. Every single one. So there can be no question of our having taken anything out of context or having omitted something that would fundamentally change its meaning.
Unfortunately, Professor Hamblin mislaid the original of the letter some years ago, and there's nothing I can do about that. But I saw it, and he saw it, and at least three other editors saw it. Our source checkers saw it, too.
If you want to accuse us of misrepresenting a message sent on official letterhead of the Office of the First Presidency, or of forging it outright, I hope you will do so. It would be, for a member of the Church and an employee of the Church's university, a very, very serious offense. I encourage you to put my career and my Church membership on the line. Contact Michael Watson and demand that I and my co-conspirators face justice!
Otherwise, stop insinuating that we're lying or falsifying. I grew tired of the suggestion a long, long time ago.
Sorry Dr. Peterson looks like we had to come in to rescue you again from the big bad rapid anti's that have such better arguements then you have. Ref is banned and anyone else that wants to go with him, keep badgering the posters here and we will do another round up.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.... This seems extremely significant. DCP and Bill "Don't Call Me Jacob" Hambling are making arguments on the basis of a letter that Habmlin misplaced??? Holy smokes. Unbelievable. Of course it's only fitting that DCP would be making assertions on the basis of evidence that no longer exists. Yet another instance, apparently, of de rigueur FARMS scholarship. Utterly stunning.
Well done, SB.
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The FAIR BOARDS are closed now
Everytime I click on a thread it takes me to that new page....I cannot view anything anymore..sorry
and of course they are not taking anymore new members right now...so the AXE has fallen
For the moment everyone appears like they are banned but I am sure that is not the case....
I will find away back in....I will keep you all updated
Everytime I click on a thread it takes me to that new page....I cannot view anything anymore..sorry
and of course they are not taking anymore new members right now...so the AXE has fallen
For the moment everyone appears like they are banned but I am sure that is not the case....
I will find away back in....I will keep you all updated
When I wake up I will be hungry....but this feels so good right now aaahhhhhh........
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Jersey Girl wrote:Find a way back in, SB? Why?
Jersey Girl
WHY NOT....THIS IS FUN....JUST PROVES NOTHING IS A SECRET OR SACRED or whatever
And because I want to OKAY
Why does this concern you????
You have something to hide???
When I wake up I will be hungry....but this feels so good right now aaahhhhhh........
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SMART BITCH wrote:Jersey Girl wrote:Find a way back in, SB? Why?
Jersey Girl
WHY NOT....THIS IS FUN....JUST PROVES NOTHING IS A SECRET OR SACRED or whatever
And because I want to OKAY
Why does this concern you????
You have something to hide???
Not while we have a supply of aluminum foil and they KEEP THE THORAZINE AWAY!!!!!
Cry Heaven and let loose the Penguins of Peace
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moksha wrote:SMART BITCH wrote:Jersey Girl wrote:Find a way back in, SB? Why?
Jersey Girl
WHY NOT....THIS IS FUN....JUST PROVES NOTHING IS A SECRET OR SACRED or whatever
And because I want to OKAY
Why does this concern you????
You have something to hide???
Not while we have a supply of aluminum foil and they KEEP THE THORAZINE AWAY!!!!!
Aluminum foil is pretty cheap and I am not sure what THORAZINE is but it won't work on me...because you never ban a pissed off white BITCHY women going through MENOPAUSE
OKAY...because you save the BITCHES you save the WORLD
When I wake up I will be hungry....but this feels so good right now aaahhhhhh........
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Daniel Peterson wrote:But it's really striking to see how fascinated you are by me. You've really been doing your research. Do you go through my garbage cans? Good thing I've got a shredder. Is that you parked across the street? Just don't try to interview the little kids in our neighborhood, though. The parents are likely to report you.
. . . Do I need to report you as a stalker, Ref? You're creeping me out.
If DCP thinks Ref is a stalker, wait 'till he gets a load of the uber-stalker "Mr. Itchy."
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