Mr. Itchy, Response and dialog.

[_Pahoran]

Scratch,

I respect people's rights to keep their private life separate from the internet.

No. You don't.

Not unless people stay on your good side. Otherwise, they are targets.

When I first naïvely got on the internet, I used my real last name, but quickly found out that could be unwise, due to the nuts one encounters on the net. So I stopped using my name and have always used pseudonyms since then.

Which is precisely what I did.

But it is all too apparent that Juliann and Pahoran are perfectly comfortable with their full names being associated with their pseudonyms.

That is entirely false. Which is, of course, entirely sufficient to explain why you wrote that.

I have made it abundantly clear since first posting here that I am not "perfectly comfortable" with that.

Shades has, at my request, removed a number of posted links precisely because they reference my in real life identity. I suggest you do it yourself.

Regards,
Pahoran

[_beastie]

So, Pahoran, why didn't you object when your real name was repeatedly used on ZLMB, right in front of your face? The mods were right there on the thread.

by the way, I removed the links at your request.

But let me give you a little clue: if you really don't want people to know your real name, and you know full well your current name is repeatedly linked with your real name on various LDS boards, you may want to change Pee to something else. Pooh?

[_rcrocket]

When I first naïvely got on the internet, I used my real last name, but quickly found out that could be unwise, due to the nuts one encounters on the net. So I stopped using my name and have always used pseudonyms since then.

When I started posting on the board, I immediately identified myself. At three different times, I received threats that my emails would be reported to either my employer (I am self employed) or stake president. On a prior board I was told that I would be reported to my state bar.

But one needs to be fearless. I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ.

So, I post pseudnonymically but not anonymously.

P

[_keene]

When I first naïvely got on the internet, I used my real last name, but quickly found out that could be unwise, due to the nuts one encounters on the net. So I stopped using my name and have always used pseudonyms since then.

Which is precisely what I did.

But it is all too apparent that Juliann and Pahoran are perfectly comfortable with their full names being associated with their pseudonyms.

That is entirely false. Which is, of course, entirely sufficient to explain why you wrote that.

I have made it abundantly clear since first posting here that I am not "perfectly comfortable" with that.

Shades has, at my request, removed a number of posted links precisely because they reference my in real life identity. I suggest you do it yourself.

Regards,
Pahoran

Going retroactive may help -- remove the old stuff, too. If your privacy is all that important, then taking care of it should be a pretty high priority. Of course, if anything is ever brought to my attention, I'll fix it. Beastie has apparently already removed the links. We aim to please.

[_beastie]

Keene is right, Pahoran. When people read your stuff on Z and see that you were opently called by your real name, it is quite reasonable for them to assume you don't have a problem with that. And when they see Juliann openly being linked to FAIR and her real name, they will assume she doesn't have a problem with THAT.

Which is exactly why what creep Itchy did was ridiculous, and the use of your names was simply an excuse to lash out at comments they didn't like, instead of having the courage to defend themselves on a board where they are ALLOWED to post. At least you had the courage to do that.

Plutarch,

It doesn't have anything to do with being ashamed. It has to do with the fact that there are predatory people on the internet (I'm talking about sexually predatory people mainly but I suppose it could be other types) whom you do not want to have your real life information. It's common sense protection, in my opinion. Of course, men don't have to worry about that factor in the same way women do, but it still exists.

[_OUT OF MY MISERY]

Keene is right, Pahoran. When people read your stuff on Z and see that you were opently called by your real name, it is quite reasonable for them to assume you don't have a problem with that. And when they see Juliann openly being linked to FAIR and her real name, they will assume she doesn't have a problem with THAT.

Which is exactly why what creep Itchy did was ridiculous, and the use of your names was simply an excuse to lash out at comments they didn't like, instead of having the courage to defend themselves on a board where they are ALLOWED to post. At least you had the courage to do that.

Plutarch,

It doesn't have anything to do with being ashamed. It has to do with the fact that there are predatory people on the internet (I'm talking about sexually predatory people mainly but I suppose it could be other types) whom you do not want to have your real life information. It's common sense protection, in my opinion. Of course, men don't have to worry about that factor in the same way women do, but it still exists.

ANYTHING ANYWHERE isPUBLIC RECORD PLUTARCH

What is so hard about that to understand????

Anytime you put your real name anywhere and someone can connect it to you it is the PUBLIC RECORD.....

SORRY but that is the way it works okay

You can thank the PATRIOT ACT for that...and the fact that the privacy laws were written before the Internet ever came into existence.....okay...There needs to be some new laws written...which I am working on right now...

How hard it that for you to comprehend ????

[_keene]

Keene is right, Pahoran. When people read your stuff on Z and see that you were opently called by your real name, it is quite reasonable for them to assume you don't have a problem with that. And when they see Juliann openly being linked to FAIR and her real name, they will assume she doesn't have a problem with THAT.

Which is exactly why what creep Itchy did was ridiculous, and the use of your names was simply an excuse to lash out at comments they didn't like, instead of having the courage to defend themselves on a board where they are ALLOWED to post. At least you had the courage to do that.

Plutarch,

It doesn't have anything to do with being ashamed. It has to do with the fact that there are predatory people on the internet (I'm talking about sexually predatory people mainly but I suppose it could be other types) whom you do not want to have your real life information. It's common sense protection, in my opinion. Of course, men don't have to worry about that factor in the same way women do, but it still exists.

ANYTHING ANYWHERE isPUBLIC RECORD PLUTARCH

What is so hard about that to understand????

Anytime you put your real name anywhere and someone can connect it to you it is the PUBLIC RECORD.....

SORRY but that is the way it works okay

You can thank the PATRIOT ACT for that...and the fact that the privacy laws were written before the Internet ever came into existence.....okay...There needs to be some new laws written...which I am working on right now...

How hard it that for you to comprehend ????

I'd rather there be no laws concerning the internet. The basic laws of "Don't “F” people over" should be sufficient. The more you codify something into words, the more someone can work AROUND the words. The SPIRIT of the law is what matters, not the letter.

[_Pahoran]

So, Pahoran, why didn't you object when your real name was repeatedly used on ZLMB, right in front of your face? The mods were right there on the thread.

I did, on a number of occasions.

As you perfectly well know.

And now let us move on to a subject you raised, in this very thread: the subject of hypocrisy.

Because the only hypocrisy anywhere in view, apart from Keene's that is, is entirely your own.

You puff yourself up into a state of high dudgeon because Mr. Itchy did something, and then immediately proceed to do the very same thing your very own worthless self.

by the way, I removed the links at your request.

I'd like to tell you I'm very grateful for your kindness, but unlike you I don't tell bare-faced lies. Ever since I started here, either actual citations of, or links to, what purports to be my in real life identification has appeared on this board, with monotonous regularity every few days. First the vindictive and obsessive hater Scratch started two threads dedicated thereto; then the spiteful turncoat Kevin Graham stuck his oar in; and now you, the uber-hypocrite, Treacherous Trixie. On each occasion the slack and useless gang of what laughingly call themselves "moderators" lazily get around to making the barest of bare bones edits only after the information has been in front of everyone's faces for several days.

So who's going to post the next lot, I wonder? I can hardly wait to find out.

This is why Keene's idiotic fulminations about legal action haven't a leg to stand on. Not only does he permit and tacitly encourage the very same thing, he did it first. He only "dropped the hammer" after someone on ZLMB started outing posters here; and contrary to Scratch's brazen lies, that hater only removed the names from his obsessive hate blog as part of that response, and not out of concern for anyone's "feelings."

But let me give you a little clue: if you really don't want people to know your real name, and you know full well your current name is repeatedly linked with your real name on various LDS boards, you may want to change Pee to something else. Pooh?

Feel free to grow up.

Oh, and just by the way: I have been aware for some weeks now that you, in your capacity as one of the chief scumbags of Scumbag Central, took it upon your worthless self to "out" me over there not so long ago. One of the many lies you told, as you habitually do, was that all I ever say is something equivalent to "all critics suck and lie."

You forgot one: "and are not to be trusted with personal information; either to keep it confidential, or to get the story straight when they start spreading it around."

Regards,
Pahoran

[_beastie]

So, Pahoran, why didn't you object when your real name was repeatedly used on ZLMB, right in front of your face? The mods were right there on the thread.


I did, on a number of occasions.

As you perfectly well know.

No, you did NOT protest on the threads I linked, and if you protested on other threads, I don't remember them, or wasn't reading them. How you can proclaim "as you perfectly well know" is beyond me.

The rest of your post is your same old trash, the type you regularly trot out when you have nothing substantial to say.

I will repeat: if you really do not want your real name known, then create a new screen name that has not been repeatedly, and openly, connected to your real life name. Because as long as it is out there, and as long as one can read threads such as the one I linked wherein you made not one single protest as to the use of your real name, AND the moderators repeated your real name when they saved and archived the threads, then people are going to assume you don't mind your real name being known and used.

But lacking that, you can always rely on borrowing the memory eraser from the movie Men in Black. Of course, you have a long list of people's memories that need zapped, considering how long and how much you posted under your real name, and how frequently that real name was linked to Pahoran without your protest. As you well know.

[_keene]

by the way, I removed the links at your request.

I'd like to tell you I'm very grateful for your kindness, but unlike you I don't tell bare-faced lies. Ever since I started here, either actual citations of, or links to, what purports to be my in real life identification has appeared on this board, with monotonous regularity every few days. First the vindictive and obsessive hater Scratch started two threads dedicated thereto; then the spiteful turncoat Kevin Graham stuck his oar in; and now you, the uber-hypocrite, Treacherous Trixie. On each occasion the slack and useless gang of what laughingly call themselves "moderators" lazily get around to making the barest of bare bones edits only after the information has been in front of everyone's faces for several days.

So who's going to post the next lot, I wonder? I can hardly wait to find out.

This is why Keene's idiotic fulminations about legal action haven't a leg to stand on. Not only does he permit and tacitly encourage the very same thing, he did it first. He only "dropped the hammer" after someone on ZLMB started outing posters here; and contrary to Scratch's brazen lies, that hater only removed the names from his obsessive hate blog as part of that response, and not out of concern for anyone's "feelings."

1.) Of course we make the "Barest of bare bone edits." That's the entire point of this forum.

2.) I am not omniscient. Stop assuming that I am. I came into the ring well after everything had been done, because it was only then that anyone took it on themselves to bring it to my attention. Sitting around in a giant pile of crap, complaining about the smell, isn't going to fix anything. Take action, stop assuming that everyone else will fix it for you. I understand your need for safety, but that does not mean I'm going to patrol every post and thread on this forum.

3.) For someone renouncing hate, you sure do spill a lot of it.