GAs in a Bubble?

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General Authorities meet with people all the time.

They read members letters that are sent to them.

They interact and deal with lots of issues and problems on a regular basis.

You people amaze me sometimes.
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Gazelam wrote:General Authorities meet with people all the time.

They read members letters that are sent to them.

They interact and deal with lots of issues and problems on a regular basis.

You people amaze me sometimes.


I think the spirit of this thread was more specifically about the major leaders of groups. I could probably get an interview with a GA, but could I get into see the Prophet for a half hour? Or the President of the US? Or the Pope?

I also wander how long an interview would go between an exmo or anti-mormon and a GA if specific issues were brought up. Sure its easy to meet with people offering softball questions, but what about hard questionS?
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Gazelam wrote:General Authorities meet with people all the time.

They read members letters that are sent to them.

They interact and deal with lots of issues and problems on a regular basis.

You people amaze me sometimes.

I thought letters were kicked back by the secretaries to the letter writers Bishop, where they were chastised for not following the chain of command. Or is that the military I am thinking of? Do they read a few letters that have been carefully filtered and approved by the secretaries for being respectful and praiseworthy and perhaps bearing the title of Stake President under the signature? When people meet with them, do they really discuss the unguarded thoughts of the Mormon on the street?
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moksha wrote:
Gazelam wrote:General Authorities meet with people all the time.

They read members letters that are sent to them.

They interact and deal with lots of issues and problems on a regular basis.

You people amaze me sometimes.

I thought letters were kicked back by the secretaries to the letter writers Bishop, where they were chastised for not following the chain of command. Or is that the military I am thinking of? Do they read a few letters that have been carefully filtered and approved by the secretaries for being respectful and praiseworthy and perhaps bearing the title of Stake President under the signature? When people meet with them, do they really discuss the unguarded thoughts of the Mormon on the street?


My father's roommate made the mistake of writing a letter to his hero, Joseph Fielding Smith, with some questions about evolution. The letter was kicked back to the SP, who promptly chastised the young man for "evil speaking of the Lord's anointed" and threatened him with excommunication.

So, sometimes they read the letters. ;-)
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Gazelam wrote:General Authorities meet with people all the time.

They read members letters that are sent to them.

They interact and deal with lots of issues and problems on a regular basis.

You people amaze me sometimes.


Members are told to not bother the GA's with their letters, questions, or requests. GA's are too busy for the little people. They have a multi-billion dollar business to run!

The only people GA's meet with regularly are people exactly like themselves: leaders. We've had GA's come to our stake several times. They do not, repeat DO NOT, meet with nursery workers, Primary teachers, Scoutmasters, Relief Society choristers, the bulletin person, the family history workers, or anyone with a calling less than Bishop. They cannot be bothered to meet one-on-one or in small groups with the little people. They meet with High Councilmen and Bishops, and maybe the stake auxilliary leaders if they're feeling exceptionally charitable. The closest they come to the ordinary member is sitting on the stand in the meeting. They are the visiting royalty and are treated as such. They don't want to know what the ordinary member thinks, and to be quite honest, I don't think the ordinary member would tell them about any doubts anyway (that would be a fast track to a Court of Love).
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harmony wrote:Members are told to not bother the GA's with their letters, questions, or requests. GA's are too busy for the little people. They have a multi-billion dollar business to run!

The only people GA's meet with regularly are people exactly like themselves: leaders. We've had GA's come to our stake several times. They do not, repeat DO NOT, meet with nursery workers, Primary teachers, Scoutmasters, Relief Society choristers, the bulletin person, the family history workers, or anyone with a calling less than Bishop. They cannot be bothered to meet one-on-one or in small groups with the little people. They meet with High Councilmen and Bishops, and maybe the stake auxilliary leaders if they're feeling exceptionally charitable. The closest they come to the ordinary member is sitting on the stand in the meeting. They are the visiting royalty and are treated as such. They don't want to know what the ordinary member thinks, and to be quite honest, I don't think the ordinary member would tell them about any doubts anyway (that would be a fast track to a Court of Love).


Wasn't there a First Presidency letter read from the pulpit a while back instructing members not to write to the GAs?
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Runtu wrote:
harmony wrote:Members are told to not bother the GA's with their letters, questions, or requests. GA's are too busy for the little people. They have a multi-billion dollar business to run!

The only people GA's meet with regularly are people exactly like themselves: leaders. We've had GA's come to our stake several times. They do not, repeat DO NOT, meet with nursery workers, Primary teachers, Scoutmasters, Relief Society choristers, the bulletin person, the family history workers, or anyone with a calling less than Bishop. They cannot be bothered to meet one-on-one or in small groups with the little people. They meet with High Councilmen and Bishops, and maybe the stake auxilliary leaders if they're feeling exceptionally charitable. The closest they come to the ordinary member is sitting on the stand in the meeting. They are the visiting royalty and are treated as such. They don't want to know what the ordinary member thinks, and to be quite honest, I don't think the ordinary member would tell them about any doubts anyway (that would be a fast track to a Court of Love).


Wasn't there a First Presidency letter read from the pulpit a while back instructing members not to write to the GAs?


Yup, as in "don't bother us with your little problems. That's what we have slaves... I mean, bishops for. "

Personally, I was astonished by the letter. Who would be stupid enough to think the GA's would answer their little question? Good grief, Pres. Hinckley says on tv that he doesn't know what we teach. And why should he? It's the 12 and Correlation Committee that're running the church.
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harmony wrote:Good grief, Pres. Hinckley says on tv that he doesn't know what we teach. And why should he? It's the 12 and Correlation Committee that're running the church.


Yet another problem with a lay clergy. The leaders of other religions usually dedicate their lives to knowing their material, while the LDS hierarchy is about personal connections and longevity. It doesn't matter if you know the scriptures or have never even read them, its about pedigree and prestige.

Get into the GA's, live long enough, and you may be Prophet-these are ways of the LDS church.
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
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Bond...James Bond wrote:
SMART BITCH wrote:
Bond...James Bond wrote:
harmony wrote:
Of course they're behind the times. Almost all religious leaders are.


So, can we conclude that God is behind the times?


If there really is a God, and he is the Alpha and Omega, all powerful, he/she/it should always be relevant.

I think spirituality is great. It's a good way of answering unknowns in life, like emotion and love and many other things.

Religions come and go, but in this huge ever expanding universe where they're always a new enigma, God, as a symbol and answer for the enigmas of the world, will probably always be relevant. Or at least a catch all for the unknown.

Bond



Sorry Bond to put that image in your head that is pretty gross...but I hope you understand about bubbles being able to cover up stuff when needed...


Actually bubbles are good when you are taking a bath and you want to cover yourself...in case someone walks in

Si if GA'a are living in a bubble...which they are...then they can cover themselves...in case someone walks in...

So living in a Bubble can be very very conveint....fo GA's


Not sure where talking about the same bubbles here.

I will now burn the image of any of the GA's taking a bubble bath out of my mind with a blowtorch.

Bond
When I wake up I will be hungry....but this feels so good right now aaahhhhhh........
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SMART BITCH wrote:
Sorry Bond to put that image in your head that is pretty gross...but I hope you understand about bubbles being able to cover up stuff when needed...



It's alright, the images are all gone. Now I just have to regrow my hair...

Bond
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
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