Race Issues and the Church....my POV
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moksha wrote:Ray, once again I would refer to Hinckley's remarks. He would say that Peterson's and McConkie's remarks arose from their arrogance and in making such remarks, they were not true Disciples of Christ
He would say that? Really? How do you know?
He hasn't even hinted that he would say something like that.
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Who Knows wrote:moksha wrote:Ray, once again I would refer to Hinckley's remarks. He would say that Peterson's and McConkie's remarks arose from their arrogance and in making such remarks, they were not true Disciples of Christ
He would say that? Really? How do you know?
He hasn't even hinted that he would say something like that.
Because his remarks could be applied across the board and retroactively. His remarks:
are far more than a hint, they are a doctrinal guidepost.I remind you that no man who makes disparaging remarks concerning those of another race can consider himself a true disciple of Christ. Nor can he consider himself to be in harmony with the teachings of the Church of Christ. How can any man holding the Melchizedek Priesthood arrogantly assume that he is eligible for the priesthood whereas another who lives a righteous life but whose skin is of a different color is ineligible?
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beastie wrote:I had no idea that LDS people are still justifying the priesthood ban due to the mark of cain theory. I guess it's been too long since I've been around a real chapel Mormon instead of these internet Mormons who are way too PC for that.
It is insane to pretend that the priesthood ban and the justifications given for it did not result in racism in the LDS church. And until either the LDS church officially repudiates the past ban, or every LDS person who was alive during the ban and remembers the Mark of Cain justifications dies out and the church wipes out the evidences of the past, racism will continue in the LDS church.
That is not to say all LDS are racist. Of course they aren't. But it is common sense to realize that racism is going to be more common in a group that recently had institutionalized, "God Approved" racism and has never officially repudiated it than an another group that did not.
I've known three African American Mormons in my years as an LDS member in the south. Just three. And all of them either went completely inactive or switched to another church because they couldn't stand the isolation and, at times, out right patronization or racism in enough Mormons to make them unable to tolerate the LDS faith any longer.
According to BCSpace, the mark of Cain theory never existed.
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GIMR wrote:Calling BCSpace...
Meet the challenge instead of calling me racist.
OOMM
Here...I have to agree with GIMR...RACISM is alive and well all over the UNITED STATES...they only reason BCSpace it not seeing it because he is white...
I have been called a racist because I refer to the white boys at my college/ I am white by the way...as privledged white boys who think the world revovles around them...and they expect everyone to not challenge anything they say and do
and right now I am sitting home afraid to go out because these WHITEBOYS have threatened my life and my children's lifes
I have been advised to stay off campus..but I have been okayed to finish my course work at home so I can complete my semester...
Would a Black young man have done this to me...no I do not think so...is that racist to say...I hope not
truthfully had I know I could not be smart in my classes...I would have never gone back to college...but I have come to far
and I have a really great scholarship
Did I do anything in class except speak up no...this was in a civil rights class that I dared to challenge a white boy on his racist viewpoints...in front of the class....he was not happy...And I am sorry I did that but
The world was designed around priviledged white men....is that not true or not
And so was religion..
When I wake up I will be hungry....but this feels so good right now aaahhhhhh........