Vogel Rips juliann a New One

[_wenglund]

I see that the intellectual Chihauhua's are back to obsessively barking at Juliann's heals--not realizing that Dan's supposed "ripping a new one" was, in many ways, a misunderstanding on his part.

Naturally, the comprehension-challenged here will see it differently, and continue to dog-pile in Juliann's absense.

What would be interesting to learn is what Dan may think of the "reasoning skills" (I use that term liberally you your cases) and posting styles evinced by his supporters on this thread. I think some may be surprised just how low of an opinion he may have of your online behavior, and how reluctent he may be in being apologetically associated with you.

But, bark on.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Wade, I'd really like to see you make a post on this thread that has at least a little bit of substance to it. Saying that Dan simply misunderstood and would be embarrassed to be around us doesn't qualfy as such.

I find it interesting that you request substance from me rather than Scratch, or Tal, or harmony, or MormonMendacity, or Out-Of-My -Misery. Why is that?

Thanks, -Wade Enlgund-

[_Runtu]

I find it interesting that you request substance from me rather than Scratch, or Tal, or harmony, or MormonMendacity, or Out-Of-My -Misery. Why is that?

Thanks, -Wade Enlgund-

Uh, because they actually discussed the issues instead of doing a handwaving dismissal like you did.

[_moksha]

Yikes, when Juliann starts talking about cults, I immediately picture her as Sheela to Dr. Peterson's Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh up at the Rancho Rajneesh in Oregon. Sheela knew how to deal with naysayers.

[Gadianton]

I find it interesting that you request substance from me rather than Scratch, or Tal, or harmony, or MormonMendacity, or Out-Of-My -Misery. Why is that?

Thanks, -Wade Enlgund-

Uh, because they actually discussed the issues instead of doing a handwaving dismissal like you did.

Fascinating. That is precisely how I viewed all but Beasties posts on this thread---i.e. as handwaving dismissals that don't directly address the issue, including your own. I was responding in kind.

Were Dan here, I may be inclined to substantively discuss his perceptions. But, as explained on multiple occasions to Scratch, I am disinclined to talk behind people's back (i.e. have prolonged discussions about people who aren't participants in the discussion), and I feel that is what I would be doing with him just as others here are doing with Juliann.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_beastie]

Fascinating. That is precisely how I viewed all but Beasties posts on this thread (including your own). I was responding in kind.

What's fascinating is the fact that you ignore the thread on which I provide more than ample documentation from the actual books, demonstrating the extend to which Juliann butchered her source.

[_wenglund]

Fascinating. That is precisely how I viewed all but Beasties posts on this thread (including your own). I was responding in kind.

What's fascinating is the fact that you ignore the thread on which I provide more than ample documentation from the actual books, demonstrating the extend to which Juliann butchered her source.

More fascinating still is your mis-thinking I may view you as a credible source for determining what is "butchered" or not, and what Juliann has said or not, when clearly on other threads you demonstrated quite the opposite to me.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Dr. Shades]

OUCH! That was such a hard spanking even I felt it!

Don't confuse my commentary on the behaviors I see on this board with the topic.

LOL! Juliann's commentary on the behaviors she sees on that board are the topic, and always have been!

So can we agree that the apostate, as described, does exist?

Dan ought to respond by saying, "I'll answer that question if you first answer whether we can agree that some apostate narratives can be true?"

The authors use "atrocity tale" to describe the story exiters tell not to justify their exit from the faith, but rather to justify joining the subversive NRM to begin with.

Thanks, beastie, for answering my question before I even asked it.

I see that the intellectual Chihauhua's are back to obsessively barking at Juliann's heals--not realizing that Dan's supposed "ripping a new one" was, in many ways, a misunderstanding on his part.

You're wrong. Dan clearly demonstrated that he didn't misunderstand Juliann in the slightest.

What would be interesting to learn is what Dan may think of the "reasoning skills" (I use that term liberally you your cases) and posting styles evinced by his supporters on this thread. I think some may be surprised just how low of an opinion he may have of your online behavior, and how reluctent he may be in being apologetically associated with you.

I can just as easily say that you may be surprised just how low of an opinion he may have of your online behavior.

Yes, making wild and baseless assumptions is easy, isn't it, Wade?

[_beastie]

More fascinating still is your mis-thinking I may view you as a credible source for determining what is "butchered" or not, and what Juliann has said or not, when clearly on other threads you demonstrated quite the opposite to me.

Unlike Juliann, I offer an abundance of citations from the actual text, so you can make your own judgment.

I understand, however, why it's a thread you'd rather avoid. You may have to actually engage in the substance. (heaven forfend!!)

[_Dr. Shades]

Just a quick question, but why does Juliann have such an irrational hatred for intellectually superior members of her own sex?

Although I'm constantly surrounded by people of both sexes who are intellectually superior to me on this board (as in life), rather than resent their presence, I welcome it!

[_Sam Harris]

Just a quick question, but why does Juliann have such an irrational hatred for intellectually superior members of her own sex?

Although I'm constantly surrounded by people of both sexes who are intellectually superior to me on this board (as in life), rather than resent their presence, I welcome it!

Juliann is severly stunted in the area of self-esteem. She tries to compensate for this by "using big words", as our two board annoyances do as well, but deep inside feels inadequate. I would too, defending a faith that didn't really and fully appreciate me for who I am. I once did, having two strikes against me in the fundamentalist LDS world: black and female. Juliann just has the female factor to contend with.

She wants to be the queen of the hill wherever she goes, and anyone who gets in the way of that incites her insipid brattiness. Beastie has far more patience than I.