A MA&D Poster Links to this Board

The catch-all forum for general topics and debates. Minimal moderation. Rated PG to PG-13.
Post Reply
_harmony
_Emeritus
Posts: 18195
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:35 am

Post by _harmony »

maklelan wrote:
harmony wrote:Mak, show me where FAIR/MAD has a rule that says a poster MUST register under a SPECIFIC nickname and no others. Because I never knew there was a rule that said I had to register as harmony and couldn't register any other nickname.

Thanks.


From their guidelines page:

Arguing with the moderators and/or any attempts to circumvent moderator actions are forbidden (creating multiple identities to avoid suspensions, cross-posting, etc.)


Ah, but that's not what happened, Mak.

Blink was Q'd, because Blink and harmony were the same person. I didn't cause any trouble, didn't break any rules, the mods didn't even know who I was although some of the posters figured it out. The instant Juliann figured out who Blink was, I was Q'd on my next post. Not for breaking any rules, mind you; for being harmony. Your theory goes up in smoke, my friend. When I asked how long I'd be Q'd, I was told "forever". When I asked why, I was told "because I was harmony."

I'd never hidden the fact that harmony and Blink were the same person. No one ever asked. And registering as Blink was not against any rule that I could see. (I'd really love to see that rule: "All MAD posters must register using only the nicknames they've used on ZLMB... or MDB... or the Think Tank." Yeah right, like that's gonna happen).

So you see, I was Q'd for simply being who I am. I wasn't suspended, so your rule doesn't apply to me. I didn't create the Pickle to avoid being banned or suspended. I created the Pickle because Blink was Q'd and I was being punished for being me. At no point was the Blink account ever suspended. The Pickle was banned because the Pickle was me.

Maybe you should actually read the rules before you just go off and do whatever you want and then endlessly whine about the injustice that rains down upon you.


I'm so glad you agree that my treatment was an injustice. You have no idea how comforted that makes me feel.

You couldn't possibly compose a cogent argument that would ever make me think there is anything trustworthy or substantive in your posts. You have been shown to be grossly unprepared in every single attempt you have made to prove my initial judgment of your cause anything less than spot on. Are you going to continue to try?


Mak, allow me to be the first to tell you that you sound like you belong on MAD, and as a pundit no less. You fit right in there. (And honey, that's the worst insult I could ever think up). If you think I'm not trustworthy or substantive, I know I've done my job, because you wouldn't know a trustworthy individual or a substantive post if it bit you on the behind. We won't go into my initial judgment of you, because you're just fulfilling whatever destiny you've conjured up for yourself, by your responses. You don't need me to damn you; you do that all by yourself.

I know you don't really care what I think, but I'd like to say something, and I hope others read it as well. Let me start by saying this is not directed specifically at you, harmony, but is a general critique that I think benefits everyone. I have had to face this reality myself. It seems to be a proclivity of many people on these boards to fight tooth and nail for a reputation of crafting powerful and impregnable arguments. The slightest show of weakness is avoided as if it were the black death. I have yet to see a single person on this board concede even one point. Even admiting a misunderstanding is evaded. When someone realizes they are in the wrong they abandon the thread, change the subject, or try to insist that they were misunderstood. I think that's a pathetic way to debate and a pathetic way for anyone to represent themselves. No one can be right all the time, and attempting to appear that way often leads people down ridiculous roads of self-justification and evolving character. You will notice that I have apologized to several people for a bad attitude and sometimes incomplete and weak arguments. You (general you, not just harmony) can call me wrong all you want, and sometimes you'll be right, but if you want anyone to respect your opinion or your cause (whatever it may be), you need to let go of the fallacy of thinking you can never be wrong. When people cannot do that, people will usually just assume that they're wrong.


Thank you for that homily. I wonder if you put it on MAD, what the response would be. You've been on this board for a grand total of what... less than a week?.. and yet you already know everything there is to know about us... you know we're liars, you know we make weak arguments, you know we're stupid, you know we're delusional, you know we have bad attitudes. Shoot, it took Plutarch a lot longer to figure us out. You must be some kind of mind-reader, Mak. And you know what? Sometimes you're right. But then... we tend to acknowledge our humanness and our weaknesses a bit more readily than our counterparts on your home board (if MAD is indeed your home board). And still, we go on, create new threads, discuss other ideas, fuss and argue, agree and support... heck, we tolerate both ends of the spectrum! We've got Wade and Gaz on one end, and Vegas and Misery on the other... and we like them ALL. For that alone, I think we deserve brownie points. We just move over and make room for everyone who comes. The MAD board could learn a few things from us about tolerance, humility, and unconditional love. Oh wait... no, they couldn't. They're purrrrrfect already.
_maklelan
_Emeritus
Posts: 4999
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:51 am

Post by _maklelan »

I don't know anything about that, but I'm pretty sure the mods can do that kind of thing.
I like you Betty...

My blog
_harmony
_Emeritus
Posts: 18195
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:35 am

Post by _harmony »

moksha wrote:Makelen, you might ask who Dunamis and Kemara really were and why they were never in violation of the rules.


Moksha, have I told you lately how much I love you? Trust you to cut right to the heart of the matter.
_harmony
_Emeritus
Posts: 18195
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:35 am

Post by _harmony »

maklelan wrote:I don't know anything about that, but I'm pretty sure the mods can do that kind of thing.


Pahoran was not a mod.
_maklelan
_Emeritus
Posts: 4999
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:51 am

Post by _maklelan »

harmony wrote:
maklelan wrote:
harmony wrote:Mak, show me where FAIR/MAD has a rule that says a poster MUST register under a SPECIFIC nickname and no others. Because I never knew there was a rule that said I had to register as harmony and couldn't register any other nickname.

Thanks.


From their guidelines page:

Arguing with the moderators and/or any attempts to circumvent moderator actions are forbidden (creating multiple identities to avoid suspensions, cross-posting, etc.)


Ah, but that's not what happened, Mak.

Blink was Q'd, because Blink and harmony were the same person. I didn't cause any trouble, didn't break any rules, the mods didn't even know who I was although some of the posters figured it out. The instant Juliann figured out who Blink was, I was Q'd on my next post. Not for breaking any rules, mind you; for being harmony. Your theory goes up in smoke, my friend. When I asked how long I'd be Q'd, I was told "forever". When I asked why, I was told "because I was harmony."

I'd never hidden the fact that harmony and Blink were the same person. No one ever asked. And registering as Blink was not against any rule that I could see. (I'd really love to see that rule: "All MAD posters must register using only the nicknames they've used on ZLMB... or MDB... or the Think Tank." Yeah right, like that's gonna happen).

So you see, I was Q'd for simply being who I am. I wasn't suspended, so your rule doesn't apply to me. I didn't create the Pickle to avoid being banned or suspended. I created the Pickle because Blink was Q'd and I was being punished for being me. At no point was the Blink account ever suspended. The Pickle was banned because the Pickle was me.


This is utterly meaningless. You registered under the other name to avoid your suspension. That's against the rules. It doesn't matter if you've had that nickname forever. This is seriously the dumbest argument I've ever heard.
I like you Betty...

My blog
_maklelan
_Emeritus
Posts: 4999
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:51 am

Post by _maklelan »

harmony wrote:
maklelan wrote:I don't know anything about that, but I'm pretty sure the mods can do that kind of thing.


Pahoran was not a mod.


I'll ask him about it.
I like you Betty...

My blog
_harmony
_Emeritus
Posts: 18195
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:35 am

Post by _harmony »

This is utterly meaningless. You registered under the other name to avoid your suspension. That's against the rules. It doesn't matter if you've had that nickname forever. This is seriously the dumbest argument I've ever heard.


Mak, I'm seriously starting to question your reading comprehension. I'll spell it out in simple words:

Blink.... was..... never..... suspended.

See how easy that is?
_maklelan
_Emeritus
Posts: 4999
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:51 am

Post by _maklelan »

harmony wrote:
This is utterly meaningless. You registered under the other name to avoid your suspension. That's against the rules. It doesn't matter if you've had that nickname forever. This is seriously the dumbest argument I've ever heard.


Mak, I'm seriously starting to question your reading comprehension. I'll spell it out in simple words:

Blink.... was..... never..... suspended.

See how easy that is?


This is what you said:

None of my posts ever made it out of the Q. So I re-registered, this time as Dill Pickles.


You broke the rule I quoted. You registered under a different name to "circumvent moderator actions." Would you like it spelled out in simple words?
I like you Betty...

My blog
_harmony
_Emeritus
Posts: 18195
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:35 am

Post by _harmony »

maklelan wrote:
harmony wrote:
This is utterly meaningless. You registered under the other name to avoid your suspension. That's against the rules. It doesn't matter if you've had that nickname forever. This is seriously the dumbest argument I've ever heard.


Mak, I'm seriously starting to question your reading comprehension. I'll spell it out in simple words:

Blink.... was..... never..... suspended.

See how easy that is?


This is what you said:

None of my posts ever made it out of the Q. So I re-registered, this time as Dill Pickles.


You broke the rule I quoted. You registered under a different name to "circumvent moderator actions." Would you like it spelled out in simple words?


Okay, that made me laugh. I apologize, that was not well done of me. Sputtering all over the screen is just messy, but that really made me laugh.

Actually, no, I didn't break the rule when I registered as the Pickle. I broke it when I registered as Blink. Busted it to smithereens. Totally. Had I originally registered as harmony, I would have been immediately banned. So I guess my whole existence on FAIR was trying to circumvent moderator action. Why? Because I knew exactly who the mods were, and I knew my lifespan was limited. So I circumvented them from the moment I registered. You know what? You're right! I circumvented moderator actions for literally hundreds of posts over months and months. How funny! How droll! What a unique way of looking at things, Mak. You bring the MAD perspective to this board. Okay, that wasn't well done of me. I apologize... again! There's no need for me to be insulting, when I'm trying so hard for repentent!

I wonder if I was circumventing any ZLMB rule, when we registered as WAzing? Probably. Oh dear. MORE repenting! Is this a confessionable sin, or is this one I can take care of myself? Do I need priesthood absolution, or is the Atonement enough? Decisions, decisions!
_maklelan
_Emeritus
Posts: 4999
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:51 am

Post by _maklelan »

harmony wrote:Actually, no, I didn't break the rule when I registered as the Pickle. I broke it when I registered as Blink. Busted it to smithereens. Totally. Had I originally registered as harmony, I would have been immediately banned. So I guess my whole existence on FAIR was trying to circumvent moderator action. Why? Because I knew exactly who the mods were, and I knew my lifespan was limited. So I circumvented them from the moment I registered. You know what? You're right! I circumvented moderator actions for literally hundreds of posts over months and months. How funny! How droll! What a unique way of looking at things, Mak. You bring the MAD perspective to this board. Okay, that wasn't well done of me. I apologize... again! There's no need for me to be insulting, when I'm trying so hard for repentent!

I wonder if I was circumventing any ZLMB rule, when we registered as WAzing? Probably. Oh dear. MORE repenting! Is this a confessionable sin, or is this one I can take care of myself? Do I need priesthood absolution, or is the Atonement enough? Decisions, decisions!


I appreciate your honesty.
I like you Betty...

My blog
Post Reply