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_Mister Scratch
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wenglund wrote:
Coggins7 wrote:You're a legend in your own mind Scratch. If you think you whipped me, fine. But what actually happens each time you attempt a really serious dialog with me is (as with the first time I met you in a homosexuality thread), is that as soon as your taken past standard, tried and true leftist platitudes and formatted special interest group talking points, you began the inevitable slide toward irrationalism and ad hominem smears instead of sticking with a point by point argument in a serious philosophical manner, and I think you've got a long, long way to go before you'll ever be able to engage in that kind of discourse.


Hi Coggins,

If you haven't guessed already, Mr. Scratch suffers from a severe case of both "Black Knight" syndrome and "Don Quixote" disorder--having perhaps contracted both from Kevin Graham. As such, nothing you say or present by way of evidence (irrefutable or otherwise) will have the least impact, and will simply reinforce his imagined self impression.


Wow, Wade. Do you not remember apologizing to me for exactly this kind of junk? Repentance---and apologies---don't hold up if you don't make a concerted effort at reformation. You know? So why are you doing this?

Also, where have you *ever* produced "irrefutable" evidence to me on anything? You want to apply perjorative labels to me such as "Black Knight" and "Don Quixote," but do you have any actual evidence to back up what you're saying?

The only thing I have found that works (at least for my part), is to simply ignore his vacuous braggadocia, delusional self-aggrandizements, and imaginary claims to being the king of the hill. and having tilted whatever windmills dare to challenge him.


Actually, Wade, I think you are fully aware of the many times I have kicked your butt, and that you stubbornly (and "uncharitably") refuse to admit it. I think you know because of the many times you have flown off the handle and left the board in a huff (such as when I pointed out that you had no real evidence for the existence of "Mr. D.", or the time when you launched into your attack on your fun little personalized post, which you then apologized for, but are now reneging on, apparently.)

Of course, though, he will invariably misinterpret the silence as another personal victory.


How else to interpret it? You two are quitters, plain and simple.

But, I see no real harm in that (except perhaps to him). I am fine with him taking his little flights of fancy. After all, it is not as though I am here for one-up-manship or intellectual competition. Rather, I am, as I suspect you are too, secure with myself, and thus I lack the need that Scratch appears to have of continually trying to convince others that he is as great and magnificent as he thinks he is.


If you guys were "secure" with yourselves, you wouldn't see a need to personally attack others.
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Post by _wenglund »

Mister Scratch wrote:
wenglund wrote:
Coggins7 wrote:You're a legend in your own mind Scratch. If you think you whipped me, fine. But what actually happens each time you attempt a really serious dialog with me is (as with the first time I met you in a homosexuality thread), is that as soon as your taken past standard, tried and true leftist platitudes and formatted special interest group talking points, you began the inevitable slide toward irrationalism and ad hominem smears instead of sticking with a point by point argument in a serious philosophical manner, and I think you've got a long, long way to go before you'll ever be able to engage in that kind of discourse.


Hi Coggins,

If you haven't guessed already, Mr. Scratch suffers from a severe case of both "Black Knight" syndrome and "Don Quixote" disorder--having perhaps contracted both from Kevin Graham. As such, nothing you say or present by way of evidence (irrefutable or otherwise) will have the least impact, and will simply reinforce his imagined self impression.


Wow, Wade. Do you not remember apologizing to me for exactly this kind of junk? Repentance---and apologies---don't hold up if you don't make a concerted effort at reformation. You know? So why are you doing this?

Also, where have you *ever* produced "irrefutable" evidence to me on anything? You want to apply perjorative labels to me such as "Black Knight" and "Don Quixote," but do you have any actual evidence to back up what you're saying?

The only thing I have found that works (at least for my part), is to simply ignore his vacuous braggadocia, delusional self-aggrandizements, and imaginary claims to being the king of the hill. and having tilted whatever windmills dare to challenge him.


Actually, Wade, I think you are fully aware of the many times I have kicked your butt, and that you stubbornly (and "uncharitably") refuse to admit it. I think you know because of the many times you have flown off the handle and left the board in a huff (such as when I pointed out that you had no real evidence for the existence of "Mr. D.", or the time when you launched into your attack on your fun little personalized post, which you then apologized for, but are now reneging on, apparently.)

Of course, though, he will invariably misinterpret the silence as another personal victory.


How else to interpret it? You two are quitters, plain and simple.

But, I see no real harm in that (except perhaps to him). I am fine with him taking his little flights of fancy. After all, it is not as though I am here for one-up-manship or intellectual competition. Rather, I am, as I suspect you are too, secure with myself, and thus I lack the need that Scratch appears to have of continually trying to convince others that he is as great and magnificent as he thinks he is.


If you guys were "secure" with yourselves, you wouldn't see a need to personally attack others.


Hi Coggins,

See what I mean? (Not that you haven't already)

It is quite predictable, and yet virtually harmless.

The hound (harmony's metaphor, not mind) of Whoville can yelp victimologically, snarl and howl in spite, and prance and preen as is his want, without the least impact on those living in real life.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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Post by _Mister Scratch »

wenglund wrote:See what I mean? (Not that you haven't already)

It is quite predictable, and yet virtually harmless.

The hound (harmony's metaphor, not mind) of Whoville can yelp victimologically, snarl and howl in spite, and prance and preen as is his want, without the least impact on those living in real life.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-
Thanks, -Wade Englund-


Wade, again: What did I ever do to you to deserve this? You apologized once, are you feeling the need to do so again?
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Post by _Mercury »

Gazelam wrote:Also watch your spelling when dealing with Scratch, he likes to go through and proofread and make corrections, it makes him appear intelligent when he replies to you, a subtle tactic, and a funny one.


Actually that tactic is seen exponentially more in the Mormon camp than the rational camp.
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Post by _Gazelam »

Vegas

As Scratchs sig line reads: ""A man is saved no faster than he gets knowledge."---Joseph Smith "

Those Mormons are only trying to help peole draw closer to God by teaching proper grammer. : )
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. - Plato
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Post by _harmony »

Gazelam wrote:Vegas

As Scratchs sig line reads: ""A man is saved no faster than he gets knowledge."---Joseph Smith "

Those Mormons are only trying to help peole draw closer to God by teaching proper grammer. : )


Actually, proper grammer is a sign of intelligence and education. And the opposite is a sign of the opposite. (I was taught this at the feet of no other than DCP, so take it at face value)
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Post by _dartagnan »

Look, I think we all know the real reason why DCP didn't provide a reference.

It is the same reason MAD doesn't link to this forum. But a FARMS publication referencing a discussion forum loaded with critics, simply isn't going to happen.
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Post by _harmony »

dartagnan wrote:Look, I think we all know the real reason why DCP didn't provide a reference.

It is the same reason MAD doesn't link to this forum. But a FARMS publication referencing a discussion forum loaded with critics, simply isn't going to happen.


The irony is absolutely dripping... he'll use the board for a quote or two, but he won't give a proper cite for the quotes. Now that... is slimy... and poor scholarship.
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Post by _Brackite »

Plutarch wrote:And then there are vulgar anonymous dorks.

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It is very interesting and amazing how Plutarch has No Problem with the moderators on the MA&D Board using anonymous monikers, but he has a big problem with some of the People here, who Post here being anonymous.
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Gazelam wrote:How do Gimr and Runtu get lumped in the same pot as Vegas and Porter?

Also watch your spelling when dealing with Scratch, he likes to go through and proofread and make corrections, it makes him appear intelligent when he replies to you, a subtle tactic, and a funny one.


Gaz, darling, I love you, but you're spelling is atrocious.

I admit, I've gotten lazy since spell check came into being, but you consistently forget to use contractions when you are suppose to, misspell simple words, and commit 7th grade grammar errors. If you want to be taken seriously as an apologist, you need to proof some of your work. Your mistakes detract from your content.

(OK...out of my teacher mode now....Back to your regularly scheduled program.)
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