Gaz,
That's what my Uncle used to call a "Back to Jesus" talk. He's not a religious man but boy did he give a lot of those talks in his time.
Timur Dyke, Mormon child rapist also known as Timur Van Dyke
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I don't see how you can really blame yourself for this Cricket. At the same time what exactly is it that you want from the Church for having bad policies in the past? I hope it's not money. I don't think too highly of that. Child abuse is terrible and offenders should be dealt with by law, but it shouldn't turn into a money making scheme either.
I think there needs to be a balance struck as well. If we're to take childrens testimonies seriously, there should also be repecussions of some sort for a child lying about things like this in an effort to use it as some sort of weapon against parents or teachers. I think bearing false witness happens more than we care to admit as well. Even when charges are dropped later, reputations are still tarnished and in the end we're left saying, "They were just kids and made a mistake and basically nothing happens to them for lying. Hence bearing false witness becomes more attractive, especially when said teacher gave you a bad grade or wrote you up for skipping class, or said parent grounded you.
As a male high school teacher I could not even deny a female student permission to go to the bathroom during class without fear of a sexual harassment lawsuit. Of course when they skipped class in the bathroom all period I was still at fault for not having control. Thankfully I'm out of that profession now, but surely some other poor soul is putting up with this abuse in the name of a meager wage as we speak.
Point being, if an invidual is falsely accused, their repuation damaged (often happens) or even falsely convicted (also happens) someone should be liable for the false witness borne by this child. Whether it's the psychologist who put the child up to it, or the parent who doggedly pursued his child's case only to find out later your child was lying. If you ruin someone's reputation or even send them to jail unjustly and it's proven that he was innocent, you should pay for it, maybe even the same penalty you hoped to impose upon the suspect. A simple, "I'm sorry," while a step in the right direction doesn't really put this persons reputation back together. Many times people don't even feel guilty about falsely accusing someone. They simply say, "I thought I was right so I'm justified." That is so wrong.
I think there needs to be a balance struck as well. If we're to take childrens testimonies seriously, there should also be repecussions of some sort for a child lying about things like this in an effort to use it as some sort of weapon against parents or teachers. I think bearing false witness happens more than we care to admit as well. Even when charges are dropped later, reputations are still tarnished and in the end we're left saying, "They were just kids and made a mistake and basically nothing happens to them for lying. Hence bearing false witness becomes more attractive, especially when said teacher gave you a bad grade or wrote you up for skipping class, or said parent grounded you.
As a male high school teacher I could not even deny a female student permission to go to the bathroom during class without fear of a sexual harassment lawsuit. Of course when they skipped class in the bathroom all period I was still at fault for not having control. Thankfully I'm out of that profession now, but surely some other poor soul is putting up with this abuse in the name of a meager wage as we speak.
Point being, if an invidual is falsely accused, their repuation damaged (often happens) or even falsely convicted (also happens) someone should be liable for the false witness borne by this child. Whether it's the psychologist who put the child up to it, or the parent who doggedly pursued his child's case only to find out later your child was lying. If you ruin someone's reputation or even send them to jail unjustly and it's proven that he was innocent, you should pay for it, maybe even the same penalty you hoped to impose upon the suspect. A simple, "I'm sorry," while a step in the right direction doesn't really put this persons reputation back together. Many times people don't even feel guilty about falsely accusing someone. They simply say, "I thought I was right so I'm justified." That is so wrong.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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Mark 9:42
" And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea."
So maybe not a camping trip, apparently a fishing trip would be better.
And for those of you who think I'm being ridiculous. Lets recap an episode of Grey's Anatomy from season one. A rape victim bites off the Penis of her attacker. As the doctor, do you reattach it? Or turn it over as evidence?
Spoiler Alert: In the episode they decide not to reattach it and leave the rapist a eunuch. The police get it in a small Ice chest.
" And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea."
So maybe not a camping trip, apparently a fishing trip would be better.
And for those of you who think I'm being ridiculous. Lets recap an episode of Grey's Anatomy from season one. A rape victim bites off the Penis of her attacker. As the doctor, do you reattach it? Or turn it over as evidence?
Spoiler Alert: In the episode they decide not to reattach it and leave the rapist a eunuch. The police get it in a small Ice chest.
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. - Plato