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Post by **_Baurak Ale** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:03 pm

I do not know which bloggers you have trusted or not. As for what the personages of the Godhead look like if you curious, I would look into what the Prophet Joseph Smith has said, and other successive Prophets rather than taking the word of a random person off the net on a blogg, I would imagine they would be far more credible? I can't see how you could believe them over an average shmow off the net?

Post by **_Bond...James Bond** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:14 pm

Baurak Ale wrote:I do not know which bloggers you have trusted or not.

Then why bring up bloggers?

As for what the personages of the Godhead look like if you curious, I would look into what the Prophet Joseph Smith has said, and other successive Prophets rather than taking the word of a random person off the net on a blogg, I would imagine they would be far more credible? I can't see how you could believe them over an average shmow off the net?

Actually I think I'll believe the average schmo at this moment. What did the Holy Ghost look like?

Post by **_gramps** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:28 pm

Baurak Ale wrote:

The Holy Ghost looks exactly similiar to Christ, but without a body

I guess I would be interested to know, what Jesus Christ looked like. Is it like the big Christus in the Visitor's Center, or like the pictures the church has used in the Ensign, or like the pictures in the old, blue hardcover Books of Mormon?

Give us some idea and then we can figure out what the Holy Ghost looked like, it seems. And why would the Holy Ghost look like Jesus?

Post by **_gramps** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:31 pm

Baurak Ale wrote:

As for explaining what that is like, I think only a fool would try, its beyound words in my experience. And infact that is just what the scriptures say, 'the Spirit of Truth'.

Don't try to explain what it is like. I would like to know how you know it was from the Holy Ghost. How do you know that for a fact?

Edited to add: It seems like you are saying something like: "Aw shucks. You just know when you know. And that's what Joseph Smith said it would be like."

Post by **_Baurak Ale** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:14 am

Why Bring up Bloggers? Because we are on a blogg, or so I thought? I could be wrong I don't know much about the net I am not sure if a Forum is a Blogg or not. I am a bit of a ludite.

I guess I would be interested to know, what Jesus Christ looked like. Is it like the big Christus in the Visitor's Center, or like the pictures the church has used in the Ensign, or like the pictures in the old, blue hardcover Books of Mormon?

Give us some idea and then we can figure out what the Holy Ghost looked like, it seems. And why would the Holy Ghost look like Jesus?

When you see the Christus, or pictures depicting Christ in the Ensign or the blue hardcover Books of Mormon as you say, you always know who is being depicted in the picture, there isn't any confusion about that. I know of no picture that looks precisely like Christ as a photo portrait would, however in my opinion some depictions look more like him than others do. Why does Christ look like the Holy Ghost, that is purely my unauthoritative opinion and any reason I would give for why that is would only be purely speculation on my behalf as I am not exactly sure why that is. I have met literally dozens of people that say they have seen Christ, most just average honest joe's like myself, if you are curious they're are literally thousands of reported NDE cases of people reporting having seen Christ himself on the NDE sites on the net, most seem to just be normal average people of miscellaneous backgrounds.

Don't try to explain what it is like. I would like to know how you know it was from the Holy Ghost. How do you know that for a fact?

Edited to add: It seems like you are saying something like: "Aw shucks. You just know when you know. And that's what Joseph Smith said it would be like."

I am not an American so I must admitt I have never used the term 'Aw shucks' I have seen that used on bugs bunny and Alma Fudd cartoons when I was a boy, however I was not aware that was in common usage amongst Americans.

Well yes I am saying when you know you know seems like a true statement to me, when a Supreme Devine Being, a God a Master of the Universe, dwells within your physically body and communicates pure devine truth to ones soul, then yes I am suggesting at that point, that yes you know when you know at that point, infact I can't see how you cannot know after that happens.

Doctrine and Covenants 130:22

The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us.

The reason the Holy Ghost doesn't have a body is so he can dwell within us and testify to us of the truth. That is his roll and mission and he can't do it with a body.

Post by **_Bond...James Bond** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:34 am

Baurak Ale wrote:Why Bring up Bloggers? Because we are on a blogg, or so I thought? I could be wrong I don't know much about the net I am not sure if a Forum is a Blogg or not. I am a bit of a ludite.

Well a blog would be a personal weBLOG, basically functioning as an online journal where (usually) one person is the primary writer. Mormon Discussions or MAD would be called a message board.

I'd still like to hear your physical description of the Holy Ghost.

Post by **_Baurak Ale** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:21 am

Thanks for clarifying that, I was unsure. Well in my personal experience and opinion this picture would be the closest depiction in facial characteristics and linements, all three members of the Godhead looking exactly similiar but not the same as they differ in ages. However it depicts the face of a mortal man that has been tanned by the rays of the sun. The views expressed here are only that of an average shmow, and are in no way authoritive in any sense. I appreciate your curiousity in the matter as I myself am an intensely curious person.

http://theoldbill.typepad.com/photos/im ... -thumb.jpg

Post by **_gramps** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:53 am

Baurak Ale wrote:Thanks for clarifying that, I was unsure. Well in my personal experience and opinion this picture would be the closest depiction in facial characteristics and linements, all three members of the Godhead looking exactly similiar but not the same as they differ in ages. However it depicts the face of a mortal man that has been tanned by the rays of the sun. The views expressed here are only that of an average shmow, and are in no way authoritive in any sense. I appreciate your curiousity in the matter as I myself am an intensely curious person.

http://theoldbill.typepad.com/photos/im ... -thumb.jpg

So, the holy ghost looked just like the image in the picture you linked to, except younger or older, and without a body?

Post by **_gramps** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:18 am

Baurak Ale wrote:

Well yes I am saying when you know you know seems like a true statement to me, when a Supreme Devine Being, a God a Master of the Universe, dwells within your physically body and communicates pure devine truth to ones soul, then yes I am suggesting at that point, that yes you know when you know at that point, infact I can't see how you cannot know after that happens.

Would you grant that others, not Mormon, could have the same experience, including FLDS, et. al.?

Post by **_Baurak Ale** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:53 am

I would say that is one of the more accurate painting as I know of none that are exact.

Would you grant that others, not Mormon, could have the same experience, including FLDS, et. al.?

Yes absolutely I see no reason why not. Mormons do not have the monopoly on spiritual experiences by any means, we are all children of God. People of divers back grounds including staunch athiests have had visions of Christ in OBE's and NDE's. Take Roy Mills for example a non-mormon that apparently never had the veil completely drawn over his memory, tells the same story of life before earth that Mormons do, of the pre-existence celestial heaven, with freaky similarity. He has written a book on the subject I believe.