Good points. I will ponder this some and get back to you on a few items.
I appreciate that good nature of this discussion.
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maklelan wrote:liz3564 wrote:Mak wrote:I think the point that Miss Taken is trying to make is that it seems ridiculous to her to hold orthodoxy as the more sure route to salvation than orthopraxy. Many people (in a very Greek manner) think that it doesn't matter how you live, but how you perceive God that saves you. Others believe that knowing about God is important, but that a correct perception of God does not Trump living a Christ-like life. Semitic religions were never orthodoxic, and that Christianity usually is is a testimony of the Hellenistic roots of its orthodoxy. They have nothing to do with the religion Christ established.
And there are those of us who simply believe that if you are kind to one another, and live your life in the service of your family and your fellow man, the hereafter will work itself out. :)
I tend to think that, but for some reason we're the one group that is least likely to be allowed to do so in peace.
Well maybe if your "group" would quit telling all the other "groups" that they are apostate and wrong, we could all have a little peace about us.
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Runtu wrote:ozemc wrote:Well maybe if your "group" would quit telling all the other "groups" that they are apostate and wrong, we could all have a little peace about us.
Nice to see you again, ozemc.
Don't you guys consider the Mormons "apostate and wrong" too?
Thanks for the welcome.
Actually, I consider most religions to be "wrong". :-)
My own personal beliefs are such that I believe that
1) There is a "God" who created everything.
2) We have no way of discerning exactly who or what He, She, or It really is.
3) All the scriptures ever written were just someone's attempts at trying to figure it all out, just like me, but, in the end, they were written by men. Good men, inspired perhaps, but men just the same.
4) I do believe that Jesus has a role in all this, and I do consider him my savior, but I will readily admit that I cannot fully comprehend that role.
5) In 100 years, I'll be gone aynway, so what difference does it make? I'll try to live my life the best I can, and, when it's finally all over, then I'll know. Until then, it's all guesswork.
As far as to what I think about Mormonsim, I think it's a religion for those who willing leave their reasoning at the door. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it does create the sense that, to the rest of us, Mormons seem to "follow the party line" and don't do any critical analysis of their own religion.
i.e. "Once the Prophet said it, the thinking's done" (or something to that effect).
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ozemc wrote:Thanks for the welcome.
Actually, I consider most religions to be "wrong". :-)
Fair enough
My own personal beliefs are such that I believe that
1) There is a "God" who created everything.
2) We have no way of discerning exactly who or what He, She, or It really is.
3) All the scriptures ever written were just someone's attempts at trying to figure it all out, just like me, but, in the end, they were written by men. Good men, inspired perhaps, but men just the same.
4) I do believe that Jesus has a role in all this, and I do consider him my savior, but I will readily admit that I cannot fully comprehend that role.
5) In 100 years, I'll be gone aynway, so what difference does it make? I'll try to live my life the best I can, and, when it's finally all over, then I'll know. Until then, it's all guesswork.
I kind of like this attitude.
As far as to what I think about Mormonsim, I think it's a religion for those who willing leave their reasoning at the door. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it does create the sense that, to the rest of us, Mormons seem to "follow the party line" and don't do any critical analysis of their own religion.
I.e. "Once the Prophet said it, the thinking's done" (or something to that effect).
I think that's a rather facile caricature of Mormons. I look at it as just people who, for whatever reason, have reached conclusions other than mine. I know a lot of Mormons who do critical analysis of their own religion.
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Runtu wrote:ozemc wrote:Thanks for the welcome.
Actually, I consider most religions to be "wrong". :-)
Fair enoughMy own personal beliefs are such that I believe that
1) There is a "God" who created everything.
2) We have no way of discerning exactly who or what He, She, or It really is.
3) All the scriptures ever written were just someone's attempts at trying to figure it all out, just like me, but, in the end, they were written by men. Good men, inspired perhaps, but men just the same.
4) I do believe that Jesus has a role in all this, and I do consider him my savior, but I will readily admit that I cannot fully comprehend that role.
5) In 100 years, I'll be gone aynway, so what difference does it make? I'll try to live my life the best I can, and, when it's finally all over, then I'll know. Until then, it's all guesswork.
I kind of like this attitude.As far as to what I think about Mormonsim, I think it's a religion for those who willing leave their reasoning at the door. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it does create the sense that, to the rest of us, Mormons seem to "follow the party line" and don't do any critical analysis of their own religion.
I.e. "Once the Prophet said it, the thinking's done" (or something to that effect).
I think that's a rather facile caricature of Mormons. I look at it as just people who, for whatever reason, have reached conclusions other than mine. I know a lot of Mormons who do critical analysis of their own religion.
OK.
I would consider that a good thing.
I, unfortunately, have not met too many.
Maybe I just haven't met enough, eh?
I have seen a lot more analysis on this site though, than in person.
Thanks.
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