In light of the massacre in Virginia....

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Coggins7 wrote:I'm shocked, relieved, and yet, dismayed, that someone here didn't find some way in which to blame this whole thing on the church. Pity.


I'm shocked, relieved, and yet, dismayed that you didn't jump to the conclusion that the shooter was an angry exmo.
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Hardly. That would be very out of character both for me and the vast majority of Mormons, but well within the parameters of standard exmo discourse, as much of what appears in this forum readily makes clear.
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Coggins7 wrote:Hardly. That would be very out of character both for me and the vast majority of Mormons, but well within the parameters of standard exmo discourse, as much of what appears in this forum readily makes clear.


Coggins,

Please repent of your mean spirit. You will be a happier man if you do.
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Coggins7 wrote:Hardly. That would be very out of character both for me and the vast majority of Mormons, but well within the parameters of standard exmo discourse, as much of what appears in this forum readily makes clear.


Apparently not, as, much to your dismay, no one suggested what you hoped they would.

Time to re-think your misguided preconceptions i guess...
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Please repent of your mean spirit. You will be a happier man if you do.



Ooo eee ,ooo ah ah ting tang Walla walla ,bing bang.

And I will too...
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Loran, who would you like to blame it on?
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Sono_hito wrote:Sorry bond, but I have to say something here. The ONLY reason that there is a constitutional amendment is because non-offensive speach never has to be protected. You only need such a thing to protect what might be offensive. No matter what you say, you will offend someone. I believe 100% in the right of anyone to say whatever the hell they want. So long as it is not a physicaly violent act towards a person. I believe full heartedly that a hate crazed neo-nazi has just as much right to speak as he wishes as would any other person.

We have to remember, that there are many times even with recent history that good things happened due to what could have been deemed "offensive" speach. Such as equal rights or the black rights movement. As one such example, there have been people picketing outside military funerals saying that only gays are dying in Iraq. "gay fag in hell" their signs say. Offensive to me as you can get. But I know they have the right to speak as laudly and whatever they want. I kinda feel as Penn Jellette from Penn and Teller, that the more these people talk the further they dig their own hole.


I guess I should amend my statement by saying I'm not against free speech....just that I hope someday we won't have to put up with stupid verbal stuff...like "God hates homosexuals" and the bigotry shown the Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK and other groups.
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Mr. Coffee wrote:Here comes another part of responsible gun laws. Most stats that issue CCWs require classroom training on use of force, situations where force is authorized, and basic tacts and situational awareness. Most states also require that CCW holders take a practicle marksmanship qualification test conducted by a certified instructor.

The state of Virgina requires both 10 hours of classroom training and a practical shooting qual prior to issuance of a carry permit. So yes, if comeone with a CCW had been allowed to carry, their marksmanship training combined with the shototer being siloetted in a doorway with no one behind him woudl have enable a clear shot with little or no chance of collateral damage.


As a few in my family are concealed gun carriers (and I trust their judgment and firearms safety habits)...I think they can have a practical use (ability to protect oneself or others)....the problem being that most people don't carry guns, and we're sort of trained in this society to believe that gun carriers (except cops) are a possible danger. So seeing someone with a gun who isn't a cop can lead to the problems of thinking a robbery is about to go down or whatever.

Personally I think the number of training hours should be higher (like at least 30 hours or more...but that's just me :).

Nice red herring though.


Rainbow trout actually ;)

It takes training in order to use a firearm accurately enough to hit areas of the human body that would cause fatal injury.


Has anyone heard if this guy (the VA shooter) had any target training?

Either way...once a person learns how to load and fire they can hurt people. Shooting into a crowd of kids doesn't require marksmanship, just rounds.
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Coggins7 wrote:
Please repent of your mean spirit. You will be a happier man if you do.



Ooo eee ,ooo ah ah ting tang Walla walla ,bing bang.

And I will too...


I hope you will repent. That means change. But based on your flippant remark here I am doubtful. I will pray for you.
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Well, at least my presence here has caused you to leave the cafeteria behind for the moment and dig into the main course without reservation.

Good can come out of just about anything, I suppose.
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