Science and the Environment

[_Mr. Coffee]

But anyone who can do the math and understands statistical analysis can understand the methodological structure of such studies. Further, anyone who has deeply studied any of the earth sciences or natural sciences, and understands nature per se (such as geophysicists, physicists, geochemists etc.), can quite clearly see through the AGW scam from within their own disciplines--and many thousands have.

By that retarded logic, since I can do the math, can perform statistical analysis, and have studied earth and natural sciences I should be every bit as qualified to render a scientific opinion on climatology over that of a specialist even though my degrees are in buisness administration and buisness arts.

See the great gapping hole in your premise yet, Scooter?

You're avoiding the issue here...

Wrong, Scooter. You're the one that brought up Dr. Ray's appointment to the AEC as if that explained something. I responded by informing you that she was a political appointee that gained the position through political influence and not scientific merit or relevence of her field of study.

Got any more retarded little strawmen for me to set fire to?

I've been out of High School far, far too long to keep this kind of thing up with someone of your kind with the concomitant extremely limited education and intellectual background you display in this discussion.

Wow, so instead of attacking my argument you attempt to attack myt educational background, which is orders of magnitude greater than your high school diploma, Scooter? You make claims of being educated, yet all I can see is you must've bought yourself a thesuarus and a word-a-day calendar so you coudl use .50 cent words in order to put up a pretense of learning.

Tell you what, Scooter, fill out a FAFSA form, get some grants, and buy an education before you try to attack others on their education level.

Also, I take it that was your acknowlegdement of defeat on this subject? Concession accepted.

Oh, and by the way, your retreat to the standard leftist ("corporate shill groups") ad hominem circumstantial argument to explain away

Here we go with the cries of there being some sort of political motivation that some how negates the relevence of an arguement (Classic ad hominem attack). You accuse someone else of using an ad hominem fallacy yet openly engage in them in the same sentence, jackass.

No, seriously, Scooter... What damned planet are you from?

without ever actually engaging the evidence, facts, data, and inferences you don't like, is an up front admission of intellectual bankruptcy that I'm happy to see you make.

Which is why you've failed to do anything but post from third rate .orgs whose scientific credentials and motives are questionable at best, right? Stick to Mopologetics, because you suck at science, son.

Tell you what, Scooter, when you stop posting poorly researched, out-of-context articles as 'evidence" maybe some of us might start taking your argument against AGW seriously.

Untill then, I'm going to giving you the verbal equivelent to a good old fashioned Central Texas Curbstomp every tiem you post on the subject.

Precisely the same thing could be said (and has),about the massive quantities of government money that has driven AGW research for many years now as well as the corruption of the peer review process that became especially egregious in the case of Mann et al.

I guess you didn't notice how in the "CO2Science.org" thread in this very same forum you're baseless attacks on Mann's methods and results were not only shot down, but demonstrated that you are either intentionally dishonest or really just that stupid?

[_Bond...James Bond]

Delete

[_Coggins7]

I snipped the entire, irrational, uninformed, juvenile rant for the very simple and clear reason that Mr. Coffee doesn't have the slightest clue as to what he's talking about and is not in a position to debate anyone educated in the pros and cons of AGW in this forum or any other.

People who lack critical reasoning skills as well as education to this degree are, while not rare in this forum, still shocking when confronted directly. Unfortunately, people like Coffee are all to common within our society and all to well represented in its institutions.

[_Mr. Coffee]

I snipped the entire, irrational, uninformed, juvenile rant for the very simple and clear reason that Mr. Coffee doesn't have the slightest clue as to what he's talking about and is not in a position to debate anyone educated in the pros and cons of AGW in this forum or any other.

More of your cowardly little personal attacks instead of actually sticking to the debate, Scooter?

How very... Christian of you.

[Dr. Sunstoned]

njk

[_Coggins7]

More of your cowardly little personal attacks instead of actually sticking to the debate, Scooter?

How very... Christian of you.

Although I said in my last post on the temperature record thread that our conversation was over, I'm going to briefly break my promise just to say that I see right through your pose, right through your mask, and right through your smarm to the ignorant, self satisfied little demagogue that lies just beneath.

You do not fool me, you do not upset me, and you do not challenge me intellectually, which is he purpose of all productive debate.

You yourself have spent probably 80% of your time on these threads calling me names, using profanity, and engaging in a series of ad hominems against me and anyone, even eminent scientists, who disagree with your ideology. I've spent probably 95% of my time with rational argumentation and evidence and 5% with personal jibes.

You have not seriously absorbed and digested that evidence. You probably have no intention of doing so. You were blatantly deceptive about Storch and his positions.

Bye.

[_Mr. Coffee]

blah blah blah whine lie BS blah

So you're admitting defeat on the issue then?

[_Coggins7]

blah blah blah whine lie BS blah

I didn't write any such thing. Don't they have a curfew for people your age where you live?

[_Mr. Coffee]

I said in my last post on the temperature record thread that our conversation was over

Yeah, ya did, Scooter. You've given up. You cannot defend your position without making yourself look like an even bigger dishonest asshole so you're arbitrarilly declaring the matter over.

It's the same as a little kid screaming about not being able to score at dodgeball, grabing his ball, and going home.



Pussy.

[_Coggins7]

I said in my last post on the temperature record thread that our conversation was over

Yeah, ya did, Scooter. You've given up. You cannot defend your position without making yourself look like an even bigger dishonest asshole so you're arbitrarilly declaring the matter over.

It's the same as a little kid screaming about not being able to score at dodgeball, grabing his ball, and going home.

Then please provide the link where I used this profanity.