liz3564 wrote:I think we need to spend more time concentrating on the "do's and don't's" being a means to an end. We need to be looking at the bigger picture which is following Christ.
I hate to sound cynical, but do you see this happening at all in the church? In my experience, the "dos and don'ts" are equated with following Christ; people see no difference.
Again, I think we need to get out of this "Old Testament" mindset. This is the mindset of the people who followed the Law of Moses. They were resistant to accepting the higher law. I think that we're stuck in the same quagmire.
liz3564 wrote:I think we need to spend more time concentrating on the "do's and don't's" being a means to an end. We need to be looking at the bigger picture which is following Christ.
I hate to sound cynical, but do you see this happening at all in the church? In my experience, the "dos and don'ts" are equated with following Christ; people see no difference.
Whenever I have the chance I talk up the higher divine attributes. I try to teach that the do's and don'ts are the baby steps and what Elder Maxwell calls "Misery prevention." But if one stalls there they are babes in their sanctifiaction process. They need to move on and strive to make part of themselves the divine attributes. In this process their experience with Jesus moves from faith to worship to adoration, adulation and the emulation. It is a long road but in my opinion the true path of discipleship. Few members will find it or even ponder and think about what is necessary to acquire such attributes. This is the higher law so to speak. The lesser law tends to prevail.
I think anytime someone thinks they have the corner marketed on God it creates a sort of superiority complex...subsequently some people feel they are better than others.
How to stop it?
Heck if I know...you could always just do whatever you want...free will and all that.
Of course I think that Liz and others are in the church but not of it...meaning that they're members but don't buy the whole thing and kind of do their own brand of Spiritual thinking within their interpretation of the LDS Church framework.
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
Jason Bourne wrote:Whenever I have the chance I talk up the higher divine attributes. I try to teach that the do's and don'ts are the baby steps and what Elder Maxwell calls "Misery prevention." But if one stalls there they are babes in their sanctifiaction process. They need to move on and strive to make part of themselves the divine attributes. In this process their experience with Jesus moves from faith to worship to adoration, adulation and the emulation. It is a long road but in my opinion the true path of discipleship. Few members will find it or even ponder and think about what is necessary to acquire such attributes. This is the higher law so to speak. The lesser law tends to prevail.
I believe few members will find it or ponder such things because they aren't taught the higher law. They are taught about earrings and bare midriffs and teased hair. So much potential to do good, and the Lord's anointed spend their time on the trivialities.
Jason Bourne wrote:Whenever I have the chance I talk up the higher divine attributes. I try to teach that the do's and don'ts are the baby steps and what Elder Maxwell calls "Misery prevention." But if one stalls there they are babes in their sanctifiaction process. They need to move on and strive to make part of themselves the divine attributes. In this process their experience with Jesus moves from faith to worship to adoration, adulation and the emulation. It is a long road but in my opinion the true path of discipleship. Few members will find it or even ponder and think about what is necessary to acquire such attributes. This is the higher law so to speak. The lesser law tends to prevail.
I believe few members will find it or ponder such things because they aren't taught the higher law. They are taught about earrings and bare midriffs and teased hair. So much potential to do good, and the Lord's anointed spend their time on the trivialities.
One of the reasons I loved Elder Maxwell so much is he did talk about these things. I miss his voice.
I think anytime someone thinks they have the corner marketed on God it creates a sort of superiority complex...subsequently some people feel they are better than others.
How to stop it?
Heck if I know...you could always just do whatever you want...free will and all that.
Of course I think that Liz and others are in the church but not of it...meaning that they're members but don't buy the whole thing and kind of do their own brand of Spiritual thinking within their interpretation of the LDS Church framework.
LOL! Great statement! I suppose you have me pegged. I may have to reflect this as a new signature quote.