Atheists who believe in moral truth must be nihilists.

[The Stig]

By the way: what is your nom de guerre over on the fittingly named MADboard?

What do you think, Scratch? Maybe Schryver?

You disappoint me.

And I'm hurt.

Just for that I'm going to give you the silent treatment for at least a week. That's right. You're on Schryver Suspension.

And for what it's worth, I'm not sure I even know what ALitD is talking about. There are far too many big words for my limited intellect to comprehend.

Wow, will. We haven't seen you around here in a long time, and you just happen to show up right now? How convenient!

How quickly you forget!

I was here just a couple weeks ago. Apparently I didn't make much of an impression.

But I confess that I was informed by a third-party-lurker that I was being accused of sockpuppetry, and so I dropped by to check things out.

Alas, things are pretty boring over here -- at least for my tastes.

So, I guess I'll get back to work now ...


Edit: Wanted to attach my new signature ...

[_Sam Harris]

He is pointing out what Christian scholars have noted for years: that a godless, finite life when compared against the backdrop of an infinitely long universe is meaningless.

He's right, but it's worth noting that a godful, infinite life is ultimately meaningless, too.

It sure as hell can be. There are plenty of religous folks doing meaningless things, but they think because they believe in something that this is supposed to make up for their life's lethargy.

[_Yoda]

By the way: what is your nom de guerre over on the fittingly named MADboard?

What do you think, Scratch? Maybe Schryver?

Schryver is a pretty good guess, but is attacking atheism one of his hobby horses? For some reason, I want to say that it's DaddyMO.... Perhaps s/he will do us a favor and just tell us, rather than hiding behind a second layer of anonymity.

I very much doubt that it is DaddyMO. He has completely disappeared from the boards since taking a new full-time job. I think the only reason he was as involved on the FAIRboard as he was, was due to the fact that he was unemployed at the time.

[_Runtu]

I very much doubt that it is DaddyMO. He has completely disappeared from the boards since taking a new full-time job. I think the only reason he was as involved on the FAIRboard as he was, was due to the fact that he was unemployed at the time.

No, I don't think it's DaddyMO. Not his writing style.

[_Who Knows]

Log? YH8?

[_grayskull]

He is pointing out what Christian scholars have noted for years: that a godless, finite life when compared against the backdrop of an infinitely long universe is meaningless.

That's not what Quentin is arguing for.

But I ask you again, can you name a Christian scholar who "notes" what you claim above?

[_Runtu]

Log? YH8?

No, if it was YH8, he would have attacked The Dude a little more vigorously. Log's not a half-bad guess, though.

[_A Light in the Darkness]

You were attacked because you began your post with a very presumptuous comment about how others would perceive you.

This is a rather frequent way in which people reply to such threads on boards that have a strong secular group. I wasn't assuming diddly. I was using past experience to dictate present expectations. Notice that I did end up with some of that here anyway. See the quick dismissals of the idea being irrational and unworthy of serious reply? That was my introduction to an atheist philosopher - a big name at that - using the argument for nihilism so someone with credibility could provide an "in." Imagine my shock when most of the few people people who have attempted to stay on topic have basically said, "yeah, my position implies nihilism, but - um - it's the truth or so does yours!"

I'm not sure I quite understand you here, ALitD. Are you saying that you have ascribed mental health issues to your online opponents in the past?

I am saying that confirmed knowledge of a posters mental health issues has, in the past, helped explain their behavior, including strange reading comprehension. I can think of one poster on the first page of this board that meets that criteria, and numerous ones on other boards. My past experience colored my reading.

I'm not "insisting" on anything, my friend. I am merely relying on your own words and posts.

So you are, like, insisting. You are insisting that my misreading shows that I harbor prejudices I - having access to my mind - do not. You're telling me why I accidentally (which you put in quotes to imply that it really wasn't an accident, thus continuing the attack on my character) added the word mental. I'm telling you that you are wrong.

no small problem to apologize. What say ye?

I already noted the second I caught the mistake that I was quite wrong. I'm sorry.

[_A Light in the Darkness]

You're so cute. Such a beautiful persecution complex. You are a fundie, in that you are so convinced that whatever path you're on, is so much better than atheism? What atheist shat in your cornflakes today?

I don't have enemies. I have gnats buzzing in the ear of my life. Welcome to the swarm.

Haha! So to merely assert that one thinks their position is more reasonable than atheism, that is to say that it is reasonable to believe in God, then one is a "fundie." So, according to your definition, to be a theist (or even deist) and express that view as if it were true is to be a fundamentalist. In order to dodge the "fundie" charge, one must think all paths (i.e. all beliefs about God) are equally viable. Then you use it as an insult? With friends like you, what need religion have for enemies?

It's neat that you say I have a persecution complex on the basis of me complaining about the insults you lobbed at me.

- Arrogant Prick.

You just called me an arrogant prick. That was mean.

- Man you have a persecution complex.

[_Sam Harris]

Oh my goodness, you're not as protected here as you are on MAD, are you? Next you'll join in harmonic singing with Cog about sacred feelings.

It's ok for you as one of "God's chosen people (puppets)" to make insinusations about other people and how they percieve you, but you feel it is an attack when called on it.

I just asked you what your point was, and you exploded like I'd stuck a saftey pin in your behind. What is wrong with you?

You don't want a dialogue here, you want an argument that you can win. And to be honest, the only victory you're gonna have here is that of the last word, because people get tired of folks like you very quickly around here. When you get your last word, you'll go report back to the mothership that is MAD, and tell them how horribly we abused you here. They will then ignore your misbehavior, and pat you on the back for being a good little contender for the faith.