The Hunger Strike Continues (an update)

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Re: The Hunger Strike Continues (an update)

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wenglund wrote: I can accept that. However, like you intimated, the best comedy contains a grain of truth, and I would suggest that applies as well to the would-be jokester as it does the one being joked about. So, in that sense, I believe my questions still apply, though I am not intent on pursuing them. ;-)


But I directly addressed your questions. What grain of truth about myself do you think I'm withholding when I joke (this is the best I can do to interpret the rather cryptic comment, "I would suggest that applies as well to the would-be jokester...")

wenglund wrote:As I see it, there is a huge difference between good and uplifting humor, and bad and mutually degrading mockery. And, with that in mind, may I in good humor suggest you not give up your day job to become a comedian. ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


Well, funny you should mention that. Whether you believe it or not, I spent many years in my 20's as a stand-up comic, and for a time made decent money doing so, with all the public adulation I ever needed to bring me to the point where I no longer need the affirmation it used to give me. Doesn't mean my sense of humor appealed to everyone, but it did appeal to enough to feel good about my work. Do I expect my sense of humor to appeal to Mormons? Nope. Not a lot of them, anyway. And I don't care. I don't really relate to the Mormon mindset.

I am certainly open to REASONABLY exploring that I have--recognizing that if this is the case, then it would beneficial to me to take back control. Could you point to where and how you see my disposition being controlled by you--particularly something comparable to what I saw in the seemingly revealing tone and content of your post?

In other words, do you honestly think my appropose exploritory questions to you is as revelaing about me as your unwarranted and harsh mokery of DCP is revealing about you, particularly in terms of control over one's disposition? I personally don't see it, but again I am open to you REASONABLY explaining your point of view.


I was messing with you. I don't know you any better than I know DCP, so how would I know if you're letting me control your disposition or not? You've made what could be interpreted as some rather telling comments directed at me lately, so take that for what it's worth (not much), but I wouldn't really make the assumption that your disposition is being controlled by what I've typed here.

Here's a guide to much of what I say: I throw ideas around. Some are picked up on, and some are ignored. It seems to me the ones that are picked up somehow touch the people who read them in one way or another. If they are commented on, especially in what seems to be an emotional way (either positive or negative), I suspect I've hit upon a certain truth regarding that person (not always, but it would likely be a good bet).

So, in conclusion, my board participation is a form of emotional fishing, and I do it strictly as a form of entertainment. People are interesting people.
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Re: The Hunger Strike Continues (an update)

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wenglund wrote:
Some Schmo wrote:So what about that, Wade? Why are you letting me have so much control over your disposition? ;)


I am certainly open to REASONABLY exploring that I have--recognizing that if this is the case, then it would beneficial to me to take back control. Could you point to where and how you see my disposition being controlled by you--particularly something comparable to what I saw in the seemingly revealing tone and content of your post?


Wade, are you kidding me with this crap? You are so totally and utterly consumed and controlled by exmos, and those whom you perceive to be critical of the Church, that practically all your waking hours are devoted to thinking about them. How many other apologists can boast of the following:
---Having been banned from RfM
---Being such as nuisance and repeat offender on RfM that your name is now totally verboten
---Operating an "anti-bigotry" website
---Operating a bigoted anti-gay website
---Copious posts devoted to "shrinking" critics, with virtually zero aimed at LDS
---Shunning of posters who don't acquiesce to your "shrinking"

Face it my friend, you are a condescending hypocrite.

In other words, do you honestly think my appropose exploritory questions to you is as revelaing about me as your unwarranted and harsh mokery of DCP is revealing about you, particularly in terms of control over one's disposition? I personally don't see it, but again I am open to you REASONABLY explaining your point of view.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


I'm open to you REASONABLY explaining your POV, too, Wade. Otherwise, it seems that your "change of heart" has been a complete and total crock of S.
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Re: The Hunger Strike Continues (an update)

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wenglund wrote:
Some Schmo wrote:
Runtu wrote:I posted those hunger strike things as a sort of joke, but I really was hoping I would get a response from Dr. Peterson acknowledging that he had, however inadvertently, at least hinted that I'm a habitual liar and correcting that statement. No such luck.

A while back he sent me an email objecting to something I said about him, and I apologized. In the same spirit, I sent a friendly email more than a week ago explaining why I thought he should correct his statement regarding me and apologize for it.

I'm not demanding an apology, but I was hoping he would at least reply. No response so far. I like Dr. Peterson and am a little disappointed, but it's not a big deal.


Dude... You don't seem to know DCP at all. If he makes a claim at any point in his life, that's the end of the story for him. He does not change his mind. He defends his ridiculously stupid comments henceforth and forever more.

If he claimed the Washington Monument didn't exist, you could drop him on its tip and impale his torso, and when he felt the pain, he'd claim it was just his trick back acting up. Don't you know? In DCP's world, he's never wrong.

To me, that's the definition of dumbass.


Hi Some Schmo,

As I look at the sharp contrast between your stated perception of DCP and Runtu's, I am wondering if what you are actually defining is "projection"?

The hostility and disdain you have towards DCP, as contrasted with Runtu's kindly view of him, seems a bit puzzling to me given that this thread is about something that occured between Runtu and DCP, and has nothing to do with you. Have you considered introspecting to see why you are so bent out of shape for something that happened to Runtu, when he considers it "no big deal"? Have you thought to explore inwardly why you let DCP have so much control over your disposition?

Just trying to help.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


I wish you would grow out of this goody-goody passive-aggressive, save-the-Mormons phase. It's preventing you from exploring your own inward self.

You can only change yourself.
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Re: The Hunger Strike Continues (an update)

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Some Schmo wrote:So, in conclusion, my board participation is a form of emotional fishing, and I do it strictly as a form of entertainment. People are interesting people.


That is good to know. Going forward I will try not to expect to derive any other value from your post than mere entertainment--whatever there may be of it to find. ;-)

Thank, -Wade Englund-
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Re: The Hunger Strike Continues (an update)

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Lucretia MacEvil wrote:I wish you would grow out of this goody-goody passive-aggressive, save-the-Mormons phase. It's preventing you from exploring your own inward self.

You can only change yourself.


I am sorry if I caused you to react defensively. That wasn't my intent. In fact, I didn't even have you specifically in mind when I made the comments you reacted to. Go figure.

But, for the most part, I agree that you can only change yourself. And at the risk of being falsely accused of "goody-goody passive-aggressive", I wish you well in that regard.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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I find the rescue of Runtu from starvation as griping of drama as the rescue of Baby Jessica from the well. Would Dr. Peterson come through for Baby Jessica? Will he come through for Runtu?

Can this disaster be averted? The nations eyes turn to Dr. Daniel C. Peterson, Ph.D, in this matter of saving the life and soul of Runtu. Will he respond in time? Is he being held incommunicado at one of the fast food joints in Provo or Orem?
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Re: The Hunger Strike Continues (an update)

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wenglund wrote:
Lucretia MacEvil wrote:I wish you would grow out of this goody-goody passive-aggressive, save-the-Mormons phase. It's preventing you from exploring your own inward self.

You can only change yourself.


I am sorry if I caused you to react defensively. That wasn't my intent. In fact, I didn't even have you specifically in mind when I made the comments you reacted to. Go figure.

But, for the most part, I agree that you can only change yourself. And at the risk of being falsely accused of "goody-goody passive-aggressive", I wish you well in that regard.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


Oh, please. You didn't cause me to react in any manner whatsoever. I own my reaction and don't blame you for it ... and neither do I apologize for it, just recognize it as a waste of time because you wouldn't take constructive criticism even if it had been phrased in "sweet spirit" style. I certainly don't take anything you say personally, and there's certainly no need for you to take me personally either, so you can stop being sorry on my account.

Is passive-aggression addressed by CBT?
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Bond...James Bond wrote:
Runtu wrote:
Bond...James Bond wrote:Ouch....I hope you were thinking (in true That 70's Show-esque fashion) BURN!!!


I think my father has lost his sense of propriety as he's aged. Not that he ever had one.


Yeah it sounds like he broke Rule #1 in the Man's Guide To Survival which reads, "Don't ever comment on a person of the opposite sex's weight, shape, or figure. It doesn't matter if she is an Olympic Athlete with .4% body fat, you must never mention a member of the opposite sex's weight, shape, or figure".....This rule is coupled with Rule #2 which reads...."Don't ever insult anyone who may prepare food for you...it's quite possible you may someday find something beside Noodles in your Razor Noodle Soup."

Personally I always keep a Twix handy so that I can shove it in my mouth and do the whole "IDOonnenmooooo" mumble when asked for an opinion by a girlfriend.


Here are two standard answers that will save relationships:

Girl: Do I look fat?

Guy: (automatic answer without looking) No!

Girl: (another automatic response) Size doesn't matter.

Girl: (more standard answers..I'll let you guess the question) It's not a big deal. It happens to everyone.

;)
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liz3564 wrote:Here are two standard answers that will save relationships:

Girl: Do I look fat?

Guy: (automatic answer without looking) No!

Girl: (another automatic response) Size doesn't matter.

Girl: (more standard answers..I'll let you guess the question) It's not a big deal. It happens to everyone.

;)


Doesn't work Liz, if you don't look they get suspicious. The best answer to the question is to look at her for 2 seconds exactly, say a firm but cautious 'no' and then lower your head in despair like the shameful husk of a man you are.

Of course when my gf would ask that I'd sweep her off her feet and play-weigh her in my hands and say, "Nope, same weight, I can still do this." Then she giggles and I start a long kissing scene. Win/Win. I tremble though to think what would have happened had I dropped her.
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Nehor wrote:Of course when my gf would ask that I'd sweep her off her feet and play-weigh her in my hands and say, "Nope, same weight, I can still do this." Then she giggles and I start a long kissing scene. Win/Win.


Awww...Nehor. You're a true romantic! :)

I tremble though to think what would have happened had I dropped her.


That would not have been good. A good comeback would have been that her beauty just made you weak in the knees. ;)
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