Tommy wrote: When it comes to matters of doctrine and church procedure, all truth comes from the prophets, seers, and revelators.
Wrong. I'm surprised at you, Tommy. Surely you know that all truth comes from God. It may come through the prophets, seers, and revelators (all of which have been known to misread, misinterpret, and misquote the source), not from them.
How odd, that a little harmony has a better understanding of how revelation works than a member of the First Presidency.
Big deal. A boulder could fall on your head and you'd still be asking for evidence of gravity.
I'll take this comment with a grain of salt considering your lack of understanding of the word "evidence." After all, you likely believe in the Book of Mormon.
Perhaps this is all true, perhaps not. The fact remains that nothing you've posted thus far is intellectually serious or philosophically substantive. Your posing as someone who understands certain philosophical concepts, and yet, where's the evidence of that? In your rant against the church to which I responded (and which you ignored)?
Big deal. A boulder could fall on your head and you'd still be asking for evidence of gravity.
I'll take this comment with a grain of salt considering your lack of understanding of the word "evidence." After all, you likely believe in the Book of Mormon.
Perhaps this is all true, perhaps not. The fact remains that nothing you've posted thus far is intellectually serious or philosophically substantive. Your posing as someone who understands certain philosophical concepts, and yet, where's the evidence of that? In your rant against the church to which I responded (and which you ignored)?
No. Nothing yet.
Forgive me for not giving a damn what your opinion of me is in matters of intellectualism or philosophy. You think I'm an idiot, I think you're an idiot, so what's the point of engaging in conversation? It's not worth the effort to try to reason with the mentally handicapped, so I won't be attempting that with you. It's more fun to simply dismiss the things you write, given your penchant for being an ignorant (in the true sense of the word) dickhead (in the true sense of the word).
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
Forgive me for not giving a damn what your opinion of me is in matters of intellectualism or philosophy. You think I'm an idiot, I think you're an idiot, so what's the point of engaging in conversation? It's not worth the effort to try to reason with the mentally handicapped, so I won't be attempting that with you. It's more fun to simply dismiss the things you write, given your penchant for being an ignorant (in the true sense of the word) dickhead (in the true sense of the word).
Whether your an idiot or not I don't know. I do think, along with some others here, that you are a poseur who talks a really good game about "reason", "evidence", and "logic", but can't stand and deliver when your called out. In other words, you've picked up standard anti-religious can't from Sagan, Hawking, and Dawkins, modified it to apply to the church, and used it as a club.
Forgive me for not giving a damn what your opinion of me is in matters of intellectualism or philosophy. You think I'm an idiot, I think you're an idiot, so what's the point of engaging in conversation? It's not worth the effort to try to reason with the mentally handicapped, so I won't be attempting that with you. It's more fun to simply dismiss the things you write, given your penchant for being an ignorant (in the true sense of the word) dickhead (in the true sense of the word).
Whether your an idiot or not I don't know. I do think, along with some others here, that you are a poseur who talks a really good game about "reason", "evidence", and "logic", but can't stand and deliver when your called out. In other words, you've picked up standard anti-religious can't from Sagan, Hawking, and Dawkins, modified it to apply to the church, and used it as a club.
Beyond that, where's the substance?
And I should care about and be influenced by what you (and these mysterious others you claim) think because...
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
You're not following mine. I'd have to care about your opinion first before I followed you anywhere.
It's difficult to take anyone seriously who believes fairy tales are real, and then goes on to defend them while being a belligerent dick in the process. You've provided absolutely no reason why I should care about your opinion on things whatsoever.
Can you understand the logic, reason, and evidence in that? Probably not.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
Forgive me for not giving a damn what your opinion of me is in matters of intellectualism or philosophy. You think I'm an idiot, I think you're an idiot, so what's the point of engaging in conversation? It's not worth the effort to try to reason with the mentally handicapped, so I won't be attempting that with you. It's more fun to simply dismiss the things you write, given your penchant for being an ignorant (in the true sense of the word) dickhead (in the true sense of the word).
Whether your an idiot or not I don't know. I do think, along with some others here, that you are a poseur who talks a really good game about "reason", "evidence", and "logic", but can't stand and deliver when your called out. In other words, you've picked up standard anti-religious can't from Sagan, Hawking, and Dawkins, modified it to apply to the church, and used it as a club.
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Enough is enough, Loran. I have seen you haul out this bull card many times before, and now I want evidence. You often post as if you are playing to some audience, or use this appeal to numbers like you've done in this post above. Who are these "others", Loran? Just one name. Prove it to me that you've got "others" on your side. Put up or shut up.
Mister Scratch wrote: Enough is enough, Loran. I have seen you haul out this bull card many times before, and now I want evidence. You often post as if you are playing to some audience, or use this appeal to numbers like you've done in this post above. Who are these "others", Loran? Just one name. Prove it to me that you've got "others" on your side. Put up or shut up.
And just to clarify, I believe I can speak for Scratch when I say he expect names other than those you've used to identify your multiple personalities and the various voices in your head.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.