The Prophet Boasts

[_Jason Bourne]

I misspoke...mistyped...I should have said Peter.

Okay...here it is:

Apostolic Succession of St. Peter

Most of the biographies below have been taken from the New Advent web site. Pope Benedict XVI is the 266 Pope or Vicar of Christ of the Roman Catholic Church and the 265 successor to St. Peter.


Successor # Name

Reigned From

Reigned To
Pope (Papa) 1. St. Peter 32 67 2. St. Linus 67 76 3. St. Anacletus (Cletus) 76 88 4. St. Clement I 88 97 5. St. Evaristus 97 105 6. St. Alexander I 105 115 7. St. Sixtus I -- also called Xystus I 115 125 8. St. Telesphorus 125 136 9. St. Hyginus 136 140 10. St. Pius I 140 155 11. St. Anicetus 155 166 12. St. Soter 166 175 13. St. Eleutherius 175 189 14. St. Victor I 189 199 15. St. Zephyrinus 199 217 16. St. Callistus I 217 222 17. St. Urban I 222 230 18. St. Pontain 230 235 19. St. Anterus 235 236 20. St. Fabian 236 250 21. St. Cornelius 251 253 22. St. Lucius I 253 254 23. St. Stephen I 254 257 24. St. Sixtus II 257 258 25. St. Dionysius 260 268 26. St. Felix I 269 274 27. St. Eutychian 275 283 28. St. Caius -- also called Gaius 283 296 29. St. Marcellinus 296 304 30. St. Marcellus I 308 309 31. St. Eusebius 309 310 32. St. Miltiades 311 314 33. St. Sylvester I 314 335 34. St. Marcus 336 336 35. St. Julius I 337 352 36. Liberius 352 366 37. St. Damasus I 366 383 38. St. Siricius 384 399 39. St. Anastasius I 399 401 40. St. Innocent I 401 417 41. St. Zosimus 417 418 42. St. Boniface I 418 422 43. St. Celestine I 422 432 44. St. Sixtus III 432 440 45. St. Leo I (the Great) 440 461 46. St. Hilarius 461 468 47. St. Simplicius 468 483 48. St. Felix III (II) 483 492 49. St. Gelasius I 492 496 50. Anastasius II 496 498 51. St. Symmachus 498 514 52. St. Hormisdas 514 523 53. St. John I 523 526 54. St. Felix IV (III) 526 530 55. Boniface II 530 532 56. John II 533 535 57. St. Agapetus I-- also called Agapitus I 535 536 58. St. Silverius 536 537 59. Vigilius 537 555 60. Pelagius I 556 561 61. John III 561 574 62. Benedict I 575 579 63. Pelagius II 579 590 64. St. Gregory I (the Great) 590 604 65. Sabinian 604 606 66. Boniface III 607 607 67. St. Boniface IV 608 615 68. St. Deusdedit (Adeodatus I) 615 618 69. Boniface V 619 625 70. Honorius I 625 638 71. Severinus 640 640 72. John IV 640 642 73. Theodore I 642 649 74. St. Martin I 649 655 75. St. Eugene I 655 657 76. St. Vitalian 657 672 77. Adeodatus (II) 672 676 78. Donus 676 678 79. St. Agatho 678 681 80. St. Leo II 682 683 81. St. Benedict II 684 685 82. John V 685 686 83. Conon 686 687 84. St. Sergius I 687 701 85. John VI 701 705 86. John VII 705 707 87. Sisinnius 708 708 88. Constantine 708 715 89. St. Gregory II 715 31 90. St. Gregory III 731 741 91. St. Zachary 741 752 92. Stephen II -- Because he died before being consecrated, some lists
(including the Vatican's official list) omit him. 752 752 93. Stephen III 752 757 94. St. Paul I 757 767 95. Stephen IV 767 772 96. Adrian I 772 795 97. St. Leo III 795 816 98. Stephen V 816 817 99. St. Paschal I 817 824 100. Eugene II 824 827 101. Valentine 827 827 102. Gregory IV 827 844 103. Sergius II 844 847 104. St. Leo IV 847 855 105. Benedict III 855 858 106. St. Nicholas I (the Great) 858 867 107. Adrian II 867 872 108. John VIII 872 882 109. Marinus I 882 884 110. St. Adrian III 884 885 111. Stephen VI 885 891 112. Formosus 891 896 113. Boniface VI 896 896 114. Stephen VII 896 897 115. Romanus 897 897 116. Theodore II 897 897 117. John IX 898 900 118. Benedict IV 900 903 119. Leo V 903 903 120. Sergius III 904 911 121. Anastasius III 911 913 122. Lando 913 914 123. John X 914 928 124. Leo VI 928 928 125. Stephen VIII 929 931 126. John XI 931 935 127. Leo VII 936 939 128. Stephen IX 939 942 129. Marinus II 942 46 130. Agapetus II 946 955 131. John XII 955 963 132. Leo VIII 963 964 133. Benedict V 964 964 134. John XIII 965 972 135. Benedict VI 973 974 136. Benedict VII 974 983 137. John XIV 983 984 138. John XV 985 996 139. Gregory V 996 999 140. Sylvester II 999 1003 141. John XVII 1003 1003 142. John XVIII 1003 1009 143. Sergius IV 1009 1012 144. Benedict VIII 1012 1024 145. John XIX 1024 1032 146. Benedict IX 1032 1045 147. Sylvester III (1045) -- Considered by some to be an antipope 1045 1045 148. Benedict IX 1045 1045 149. Gregory VI 1045 1046 150. Clement II 1046 1047 151. Benedict IX 1047 1048 152. Damasus II 1048 1048 153. St. Leo IX 1049 1054 154. Victor II 1055 1057 155. Stephen X 1057 1058 156. Nicholas II 1058 1061 157. Alexander II 1061 1073 158. St. Gregory VII 1073 1085 159. Blessed Victor III 1086 1087 160. Blessed Urban II 1088 1099 161. Paschal II 1099 1118 162. Gelasius II 1118 1119 163. Callistus II 1119 1124 164. Honorius II 1124 1130 165. Innocent II 1130 1143 166. Celestine II 1143 1144 167. Lucius II 1144 1145 168. Blessed Eugene III 1145 1153 169. Anastasius IV 1153 1154 170. Adrian IV 1154 1159 171. Alexander III 1159 1181 172. Lucius III 1181 1185 173. Urban III 1185 1187 174. Gregory VIII 1187 1187 175. Clement III 1187 1191 176. Celestine III 1191 1198 177. Innocent III 1198 1216 178. Honorius III 1216 1227 179. Gregory IX 1227 1241 180. Celestine IV 1241 1241 181. Innocent IV 1243 1254 182. Alexander IV 1254 1261 183. Urban IV 1261 1264 184. Clement IV 1265 1268 185. Blessed Gregory X 1271 1276 186. Blessed Innocent V 1276 1276 187. Adrian V 1276 1276 188. John XXI 1276 1277 189. Nicholas III 1277 1280 190. Martin IV 1281 1285 191. Honorius IV 1285 1287 192. Nicholas IV 1288 1292 193. St. Celestine V 1294 1294 194. Boniface VIII 1294 1303 195. Blessed Benedict XI 1303 1304 196. Clement V 1305 1314 197. John XXII 1316 1334 198. Benedict XII 1334 1342 199. Clement VI 1342 1352 200. Innocent VI 1352 1362 201. Blessed Urban V 1362 1370 202. Gregory XI 1370 1378 203. Urban VI 1378 1389 204. Boniface IX 1389 1404 205. Innocent VII 1406 1406 206. Gregory XII 1406 1415 207. Martin V 1417 1431 208. Eugene IV 1431 1447 209. Nicholas V 1447 1455 210. Callistus III 1445 1458 211. Pius II 1458 1464 212. Paul II 1464 1471 213. Sixtus IV 1471 1484 214. Innocent VIII 1484 1492 215. Alexander VI 1492 1503 216. Pius III 1503 1503 217. Julius II 1503 1513 218. Leo X 1513 1521 219. Adrian VI 1522 1523 220. Clement VII 1523 1534 221. Paul III 1534 1549 222. Julius III 1550 1555 223. Marcellus II 1555 1555 224. Paul IV 1555 1559 225. Pius IV 1559 1565 226. St. Pius V 1566 1572 227. Gregory XIII 1572 1585 228. Sixtus V 1585 1590 229. Urban VII 1590 1590 230. Gregory XIV 1590 1591 231. Innocent IX 1591 1591 232. Clement VIII 1592 1605 233. Leo XI 1605 1605 234. Paul V 1605 1621 235. Gregory XV 1621 1623 236. Urban VIII 1623 1644 237. Innocent X 1644 1655 238. Alexander VII 1655 1667 239. Clement IX 1667 1669 240. Clement X 1670 1676 241. Blessed Innocent XI 1676 1689 242. Alexander VIII 1689 1691 243. Innocent XII 1691 1700 244. Clement XI 1700 1721 245. Innocent XIII 1721 1724 246. Benedict XIII 1724 1730 247. Clement XII 1730 1740 248. Benedict XIV 1740 1758 249. Clement XIII 1758 1769 250. Clement XIV 1769 1774 251. Pius VI 1775 1799 252. Pius VII 1800 1823 253. Leo XII 1823 1829 254. Pius VIII 1829 1830 255. Gregory XVI 1831 1846 256. Ven. Pius IX 1846 1878 257. Leo XIII [ Vatican version ] 1878 1903 258. St. Pius X [ Vatican version ] 1903 1914 259. Benedict XV - Vatican version 1914 1922 260. Pius XI - Vatican version 1922 1939 261. Pius XII - Vatican version 1939 1958 262. John XXIII - Vatican version 1958 1963 263. Paul VI - Vatican version 1963 1978 264. John Paul I - Vatican version 1978 1978 265. John Paul II- Vatican version 1978 2005 266. Benedict XVI - Vatican version

No break in that line. I'll give the link in an edit.

http://cpats.org/popelist.cfm

If you believe this why are you not Catholic?

[_Jersey Girl]

If you believe this why are you not Catholic?

Jason...where in my posts do I demonstrate that I "believe" it?

[_Jason Bourne]

Jason

It really only matters if you want to debate whether it occured. I am just clarifying the LDS view. I have no interest in debating whether that view is accurate.

In creating this thread, I have not invited anyone to debate the apostasy, Jason. What I've done, if you read my posts here, is open the topic up for inquiry. Thus, the many questions I've posed.

Don't you think there was an apostasy of sorts? If not why aren't you Catholoc?

I think you're referring to the Restoration? I'm not Catholic because I wasn't raised Catholic. I was raised Protestant and currently am a non-participant in organized religion.

I am referring to the Reformation.

[_Jason Bourne]

Jason...where in my posts do I demonstrate that I "believe" it?

Well you posted this as proof of an unbroken line of apostolic succession. If you believe that why would you not be Catholic?

[_Jersey Girl]

Jason

Well you posted this as proof of an unbroken line of apostolic succession. If you believe that why would you not be Catholic?

Jason, you misunderstand where I'm coming from. I posted it as possible proof as of an unbroken line of apostolic succession to demonstrate one view of apostolic succession, not necessarily my own view. Think of this thread (or other discussions like it) as a table I've set. We come to the table to partake (in thought). If I serve you the Catholic view of apostolic succession, I serve it to you for your consideration and for my own consideration, not because I "believe" it.

Or you could simply see me as a crackpot and write me off entirely. The choice is yours!

Jersey Girl

[_Jason Bourne]

Jason

Well you posted this as proof of an unbroken line of apostolic succession. If you believe that why would you not be Catholic?

Jason, you misunderstand where I'm coming from. I posted it as possible proof as of an unbroken line of apostolic succession to demonstrate one view of apostolic succession, not necessarily my own view. Think of this thread (or other discussions like it) as a table I've set. We come to the table to partake (in thought). If I serve you the Catholic view of apostolic succession, I serve it to you for your consideration and for my own consideration, not because I "believe" it.

Or you could simply see me as a crackpot and write me off entirely. The choice is yours!

Jersey Girl

I get it. I am a simple fellow and easily confused.

[_Jersey Girl]

Jason,

Now back to the issue of the Reformation that ou raised. I wish you would have asked me about this after I took my Western Religions class this summer, but I'll give it a whirl anyway. Keeping in mind that it's an established fact that I don't mind making a public fool of myself by going out on a limb. ;-) Having said that, I will think on the screen for you.

The Reformation is a documented historical fact. I think it had mainly to do with opposition to corruption in the church. Documented-historical-factual corruption. It takes no "belief" on my part to acknowledge a documented-historical-fact.

The Restoration that Joseph Smith claimed, is based on "The Great Apostasy". Without the Great Apostasy, no restoration would have been needed. I've found that LDS folks can tell me about the Great Apostasy, signs that the church disappeared from the earth, but they cannot document it as historical fact.

Moving along here, of what relevance is restoring a "primitive" church that included apostles? The Apostles were directly chosen by Christ. The Bible demonstrates that they were chosen with the mission of spreading the Gospel to far reaching places and engage in establishing churches. When the Gospel was "planted" (for lack of a better word), there was no need for additional apostles for the mission was complete. From that point on, the church was left in the hands of disciples.

The Apostles of the early LDS Church were chosen directly by Joseph Smith. Now, you could make a case for Paul having been chosen via "vision" but if you use that as a case against Paul being directly chosen by Christ you need to apply that same line of defense against the calling of Joseph Smith.

The Bible prescribes the structure of the church. Do you have evidence to support that the structure of the church was ever changed?

I'll come up with Bible ref's later in the day, I need to go stain a deck.

Jersey Girl

[_Jersey Girl]

Okay, now my deck will have to wait another few moments.

The concepts that Joseph Smith introduced are contingent on the belief that Jesus Christ somehow failed to provide for the future of the church on earth. I'm not wanting to get into the topic of what constitutes the church as body of believers for I think that what Joseph introduced has more to do with the organizational structure of the church.

If Apostles, Priests, Bishops, Deacons, and Teachers are signs that the church is either present or not present on the earth, then I'd like anyone to demonstrate to me that the structure of the primitive church did not continue from Pentecost and on throughout the ages.

When was this structure NOT present in the historical development of the Christian church?

Further, I'd like someone to provide information regarding the actual duties and purposes of the following offices in the LDS Church:

Apostles
Priests
Bishops
Deacons
Teachers

Thanks,
Jersey Girl

[_Jersey Girl]

What is the definition of "Apostle" according to the LDS Church?

[_The Nehor]

Okay, now my deck will have to wait another few moments.

The concepts that Joseph Smith introduced are contingent on the belief that Jesus Christ somehow failed to provide for the future of the church on earth. I'm not wanting to get into the topic of what constitutes the church as body of believers for I think that what Joseph introduced has more to do with the organizational structure of the church.

If Apostles, Priests, Bishops, Deacons, and Teachers are signs that the church is either present or not present on the earth, then I'd like anyone to demonstrate to me that the structure of the primitive church did not continue from Pentecost and on throughout the ages.

When was this structure NOT present in the historical development of the Christian church?

Further, I'd like someone to provide information regarding the actual duties and purposes of the following offices in the LDS Church:

Apostles
Priests
Bishops
Deacons
Teachers

Thanks,
Jersey Girl

Apostles hold all the keys of Presidency. They all hold in trust all the keys of the Priesthood that have been committed to man at this time. They can thus direct all Priesthood use when acting in unison or they can create from their number a Presidency which does so (the LDS Church has been led by both in the past).

A Bishop is a common judge in Israel and is the head of the Aaronic Priesthood in his ward. He is also the Presiding High Priest. His job is to lead the congregation and to function as the President of the Priest's Quorum.

Priests are to take the lead when no officers in Melchizedek Priesthood are there. They are also to bless the Sacrament and preach.

Teachers are to guard against evil within the ward and visit members in their homes (begin Home-Teaching)

Deacons are to pass the Sacrament and collect the Fast Offerings from the Members of the Ward.

This is a very brief outline and I didn't include all their duties. The D&C is more exact and complete.