LDS in survey call for unvarnished history

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LDS in survey call for unvarnished history

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http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,660224413,00.html

Sounds good to me. What do you think?
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It's kind of a loaded survey (though I agree with the conclusion).

Who is going to say, "Please lie to me." ?
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The Nehor wrote:Who is going to say, "Please lie to me." ?


The Mormon leadership requires the sheep to say this
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Re: LDS in survey call for unvarnished history

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moksha wrote:http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,660224413,00.html

Sounds good to me. What do you think?


This:
We have a responsibility to share that in a way that correlation will agree with, so we understand that we have limits.


And this:
But he cautioned that like other archives, "there are some restrictions on privacy and intellectual property" as well as on "sacred, private and institutional materials. That's something we just won't budge on, and those things will never be made public,"


leads to me believe that little will change. That which is not public now will not be public in the future. The limits he talks about are set, and we all know what those limits are. I'll be interested to see how they color things like Joseph's polygamy to make them palatable to the members.
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From the article:

Steve Olsen, associate managing director of family and church history, addressed questions by several who were concerned that the department's new "purpose statement" — which is in part "to help God's children make and keep sacred covenants" — may exclude them from access to documents.
He said the new focus on active church members doesn't mean researchers will be excluded, but that helping non-scholar Latter-day Saints understand their history will be the department's primary mission.
He pointed to the exhaustive research LDS historians have done on the Mountain Meadows Massacre as evidence that the church isn't trying to hide its past, saying research materials gathered by the authors will be made available to scholars.
But he cautioned that like other archives, "there are some restrictions on privacy and intellectual property" as well as on "sacred, private and institutional materials. That's something we just won't budge on, and those things will never be made public," he said.[

Hmmmm........I wonder what kind of information in there is so "sacred" or "private" that they can't budge on making it public?
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Seven wrote:Hmmmm........I wonder what kind of information in there is so "sacred" or "private" that they can't budge on making it public?

Parts of the temple--we covenant not to.
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asbestosman wrote:
Seven wrote:Hmmmm........I wonder what kind of information in there is so "sacred" or "private" that they can't budge on making it public?

Parts of the temple--we covenant not to.


I guess that's what they want us to think.
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But he cautioned that like other archives, "there are some restrictions on privacy and intellectual property" as well as on "sacred, private and institutional materials. That's something we just won't budge on, and those things will never be made public,"


What these documents contain is just a matter for speculation. They obviously won't release this material.

Despite any stonewalling of institutional secrets, private diaries and sacred materials, I think it would be great just to get up to speed with the historical information offered by the Tanners. I realize that just because the members want this, does not mean they will be given this, but it would be nice. I think being allowed to deal in more accurate information, would make life easier for LDS apologists.
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Mercury wrote:
The Nehor wrote:Who is going to say, "Please lie to me." ?


The Mormon leadership requires the sheep to say this


My point is most people want to be lied to but don't admit it. I'm not restricting this to Mormons either.
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Re: LDS in survey call for unvarnished history

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moksha wrote:http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,660224413,00.html

Sounds good to me. What do you think?


Hello Moksha,

I did read most of that Article in the Deseret Newspaper, that I get here now in Utah. That does sound pretty good to me. I just hope that the Church will get more honest about the history of Polygamy within the Church in the 19th Century. President Hinckely answer on Larry King Live about Polygamy within the Church in the 19th Century, was not really that honest.
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