rcrocket wrote: The LDS version of the atonement will not otherwise work without this concept.
I'm intrigued. In what way does LDS theology require this concept?
rcrocket wrote: The LDS version of the atonement will not otherwise work without this concept.
Blixa wrote:Here's what blew me away...the whole Jesus = Jehovah business.
I quit going to church around age 16, but I swear I never picked up on this. I don't remember ever hearing this mentioned or reading any reference to it in church meetings or seminary.
So I just recently found out about it from talking on message boards and even though I'm a nonbeliever, it still kinda shocks me.
Is this belief unique to Mormons, or do other sects also believe Jesus was the god of the Old Testament?
The Nehor wrote:Blixa wrote:Here's what blew me away...the whole Jesus = Jehovah business.
I quit going to church around age 16, but I swear I never picked up on this. I don't remember ever hearing this mentioned or reading any reference to it in church meetings or seminary.
So I just recently found out about it from talking on message boards and even though I'm a nonbeliever, it still kinda shocks me.
Is this belief unique to Mormons, or do other sects also believe Jesus was the god of the Old Testament?
I think LDS blow this way out of proportion. I think what this was meant to convey is that when God appeared to the ancient prophets it was Jesus appearing in his premortal form. Since the Son often speaks as if he is the Father and the Holy Ghost speaks as if he is one or the other or both splitting them is pretty pointless. Joseph Smith referred to the father as Jehovah more than once. In LDS theology the name Jehovah has now been limited to mean only Jesus Christ to make it easier to speak of both of them separately.
I know too many LDS (I used to be one) who waste a great deal of time trying to divide up the Godhead into neat compartments.
Blixa wrote:The Nehor wrote:Blixa wrote:Here's what blew me away...the whole Jesus = Jehovah business.
I quit going to church around age 16, but I swear I never picked up on this. I don't remember ever hearing this mentioned or reading any reference to it in church meetings or seminary.
So I just recently found out about it from talking on message boards and even though I'm a nonbeliever, it still kinda shocks me.
Is this belief unique to Mormons, or do other sects also believe Jesus was the god of the Old Testament?
I think LDS blow this way out of proportion. I think what this was meant to convey is that when God appeared to the ancient prophets it was Jesus appearing in his premortal form. Since the Son often speaks as if he is the Father and the Holy Ghost speaks as if he is one or the other or both splitting them is pretty pointless. Joseph Smith referred to the father as Jehovah more than once. In LDS theology the name Jehovah has now been limited to mean only Jesus Christ to make it easier to speak of both of them separately.
I know too many LDS (I used to be one) who waste a great deal of time trying to divide up the Godhead into neat compartments.
Yeah, but how does that change the fact that Blake's Nobodaddy is also the Lamb?
It still makes no sense to me whatsoever. Why would The Son speak as The Father?
by the way, you don't need to rush to answer or even answer---its a moot point for me, but still a weird thing.
truth dancer wrote:And another question... :-)
If God lived on a world similar to ours as a regular man, then could we assume he had a wife/wives and earthly children on whatever planet on which he lived?
So, why would anyone think Jesus was the only son from God's sperm?
Seems to me there must be other son's with God's DNA somewhere in the Universe.
So, evidently God is still sealed to his earthly wives but where are his children who are sealed to him?
As I said, the whole thing just makes me dizzy! It just makes NO sense to me whatsoever.
Oh well...
~dancer~
Blixa wrote:ARGHHH!
That's some 3-in-1 Trinitarianism, Nehor. Not the THREE SEPARATE BEINGS I was taught about.
And the "we don't know much about it" dodge never washed with me. You're the so-called Prophet with a hotline to Elohim, aren't you?
thanks anyway... : )