Roger Morrison wrote:Good stuff. However, I don't think Christ pointed to the masses as failures on their own, BUT as being made so by the authoritive figures of their religion who Christ chastised as hypocrites, etc. As I read Spong, he is attempting the same: Calling religious teachers and leaders to task. As well they should be.
In the LDS Institution this is most difficult, as there is no easy mechanism for a member to discuss, or correspond, directly with a GA, or a member of the First Presidency. Too insulated as I have found. Any suggestions as to how I can do so, without starting at the local Constabulary, will be appreciated.
I have easier access to my Prime Minister :-) Warm rgards, Roger
I don't worry about the LDS leadership. If God needs to call them to task I assume he has the power and means to do so. If they continue to fail then he can take whatever measures he believes are necessary.
However in my own experience the leaders are only a simple springboard. They might aid you in the beginnings of real spiritual growth and can give some assistance but the responsibility is to the individual. The Scriptures are readily available. Prayer is even more available. I don't see the need to call them to task. I have sufficient, do others not?
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Hi Nehor, while i THINK we have some things in common re BELIEFS, we do have differences re "God" and "Authority" to act in "God's" name... I find it difficult to leave LDSism, & its reps--or anyone/thing that influences behaviour--in "God's" hands. That just seems a cop-out, to me, since "God" evidently does not intervene, as i THINK you suggest???
LDS leaders are no more a spring-board than are other church leaders to one's spirituality. Some better some worse. Yes, we are responsible for our own. But, no-man being an island does place some culpability on others to reach-out, if not into... Warm regards, Roger
Roger Morrison wrote:Hi Nehor, while I THINK we have some things in common re BELIEFS, we do have differences re "God" and "Authority" to act in "God's" name... I find it difficult to leave LDSism, & its reps--or anyone/thing that influences behaviour--in "God's" hands. That just seems a cop-out, to me, since "God" evidently does not intervene, as I THINK you suggest???
LDS leaders are no more a spring-board than are other church leaders to one's spirituality. Some better some worse. Yes, we are responsible for our own. But, no-man being an island does place some culpability on others to reach-out, if not into... Warm regards, Roger
I agree the culpability to reach out is there....I just don't think the responsibility is any higher on the leaders than any other member. The Leaders have specific ways that they are supposed to help but other members are under an equal blessing to help out or condemnation if they fail.
I do trust putting them in God's hands. My religious behavior is ultimately under scrutiny by God and the rules of the Church. Why should the leaders have to be amendable to others on top of that?
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo