Mister Scratch wrote:You know, I feel as if I have had the wool pulled over my eyes. I felt a little bit bad after Dr. Shades posted DCP's email regarding the whole Quinn gossipmongering affair. But what is he doing now? . . . it has become clear now that he seems virtually addicted to lying and engaging in smear campaigns. He can make sarcastic jokes about it all he wants, but the truth remains: he sits, comfortably and laughingly in his BYU sinecure, launching these various cruel and dishonest attacks on others.
In FAIRness, I think it likely that DCP was a victim of Gee's duplicity. In my opinion, rather than outright lying, the most likely scenario is that DCP innocently (if naïvely) took Gee's story to be the gospel truth, then passed it along--with unfortunate results.
Well then, if this is so, then it certainly reflects very poorly on DCP's claim that Quinn's homosexuality was "widely known." It seems just as likely that DCP, as with this whole Ritner/Gee fiasco, accepted gossip from a fellow-TBM at face value, and felt no compunctions against maliciously spreading that gossip on an online forum. Yet another strike against the Good Professor, I'm afraid.
I’ve developed an understanding of who Joseph Smith is based on the knowledge of what has been passed down in all its forms as well as the impressions given me of the Spirit of God. That’s pretty potent stuff. You can’t erase all the teachings given by Joseph Smith as impressions of who that man really is. He left his mark and his heart in the form of writings. These are ways to come to know someone. Can you understand that? Joseph Smith was a person of honor and virtue unlike the two of you. Neither of you can report his history in truth – but will demean him in the same spirit in which the wicked Jews killed the Lord Jesus and thereafter sought the destruction of the Church he organized. Both of you are agents to that same spirit that fueled the Jews who rejected Christ.
I’ve born testimony to hundreds of people over the course of my lifetime about the divine calling of the prophet. Many have heard my testimony and felt that spirit of truth.
Neither of you can separate me from the love of Christ! Both of you are enemies to Jesus and the restoration – but you can’t hurt me anymore than the words that come out of your foul mouths. You seek to tear down and destroy the Lord’s work and in so doing you are only piling up sin on your own heads. You can’t stop the Lord, although you try, it is futile!
Paul O
Nobody died and made you prophet, Paul. Your testimony is worth as much as anyone's else's, mine included. That I don't revere Joseph Smith is okay. I don't have to revere any man in order to fulfill my covenants with God. You've consigned me to hell so many times I've lost track, and it's still meaningless. You have no authority. You have no stewardship. And your testimony rings hollow to anyone who knows what Joseph was really like. Secretly marrying other men's wives says a lot about a man. Lying about it from the pulpit and in the newspaper says even more.
Harmony,
I'm right and you are wrong. It matters not if I have no authority to say these things to you. The things I've said are still true. The scriptures tell me to warn my neighbor! That is all the authority I need to warn you, Harmony.
Further, your refusal to praise Joseph Smith will bar you from the celestial kingdom. Do you need an angel to come down out of heaven to tell you that? Do you need the heavens to part and God himself tell you that? Would it make a difference? Would you repent and change your ways if that occured?
No, harmony, the Lord is working through me. Take it or leave it. You can't ever say I didn't warn you in all soundess of Church doctrine and scripture. I've done that time after time. You have no excuse for hardening your heart against the truth. Why do you continue to allow Satan to have such great hold on your heart? Your continued denial of this very thing will harden it further. Repent, Harmony, the kingdom is at hand and you have no oil in your lamp. The door will be shut unless you get that oil quickly.
truth dancer wrote:Maybe I'm mistaken but I seem to recall something in the scriptures about judging others... something like, as you judge others so shall you be judged. Hmmm..
Or is this one of those scriptures that was just the opinion of Jesus... you know, one of those that is misunderstood and meaningless?
I can't keep it straight.
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~dancer~
Sometimes I'm a pretty good judge when I base this judgment on the teaching of the sciptures. The scriptures show us how we may judge and tell the difference between good and evil. We are commanded to call others to repentence. In this we judge using the scriptures as the standard by which we judge.
Joseph Smith was a great prophet, even till the end of his life. Those who say otherwise must repent or they cannot enter into the celestial kingdom. This is a righteous judgment. In fact, if I did not judge this way it would make me unrighteous and I would stand condemned.
Fun with self-rightious fundimentalists Episode I: The Phantom Word Change...
Darth Osborne wrote:Master Harmony,
I'm right and you are wrong. It matters not if I have no authority to say these things to you. Search your feelings, you know the things I've said are still true. The Force tell's me to destroy the Jedi Council! That is all the authority I need to warn you, Master Jedi.
Further, your refusal to praise Chancelor Palpetien will bar you from the victory over the Trade Federation. Do you need a Sith lord to come down out of Coruscant to tell you that? Do you need the Senate to part and Palpetien himself tell you that? Would it make a difference? Would you join the Darkside and change your destiny if that occured?
No, Master jedi, the Force is working through me. Take it or leave it. You can't ever say I didn't warn you in all soundess of Sith doctrine and meditation. I've done that time after time. You have no excuse for hardening your will against the Darkside of the Force. Why do you continue to allow Yoda to have such great hold on your heart? Your continued denial of this very thing will harden it further. Join us, Harmony, the time of vengence is at hand and you no match for the Darkside of the Force. The door will be shut unless you join us quickly.
Darth O
And this concludes this evenings episode... May the Farce be with you.