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Analytics, you beat me to it. The irony of that question:

Meanwhile, the Mormons are going to talk about whatever is meaningful to them on this board. And it bugs the angry countermos to no end that we have that right here. Why is it always about them?


was quite apparent.

Juliann, it's always about them because you keep making it about them. Angry countermos seem to be an obsession with you. As long as you remain obsessed with angry countermos, your topics will continue to be about them.
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Well what does she mean it to be about? Wasn't the title something about the angry ex-mos sense of entitlement?

She talks about those countermos
She wants to step on all their toes
She lights the fire, then she shouts
Why countermos it's all about?

I do not like her shaking fists
I do not like it when she twists
I do not like this Juliann
I do not like it Sam I Am

Don't even get me started or I'll Suess ad nauseum.

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Gee, all these poets and songsters on this site are giving me an inferiority complex!! ;)

Yeah, it's full of irony. First, she makes sweeping generalizations not only about "angry countermos" (and those of us who have interacted with Juliann know that she tends to project anger and hysteria onto others, so who the heck knows how she figures who is an "angry countermo") but about Mormons, too:

Why is it that when LDS are prevented from posting somewhere we just find other boards? Has anyone seen a board where LDS churn out multiple daily threads complaining about another place who wouldn't allow us to post?


LDS just find other boards? Is that right? Better ask the RFM moderators about that. One of their biggest jobs is the one that outrages LDS in the first place - deleting posts by LDS believers who are defending the faith. Good grief, this is the big complaint about RFM, I can't count how many times I've seen LDS posters gripe about it. RFM won't allow them to defend their faith. Likewise, the Tanner board didn't fairly allow it, either. So do LDS posters just leave RFM alone? Do they recognize the right of RFM to be run by its owners as they so choose? Heck, no. They troll the site constantly (they may not consider it trolling but the RFM mods do) and then talk about RFM and what a horrible hate site it is, even write talks that consist largely of pulling out-of-context statements from posters over there (Juliann, you do remember Dan Peterson, don't you?).

And Juliann claims LDS posters just leave boards that don't allow them alone?

If it were anyone other than Juliann making an observation so wildly contradicted by abundant evidence, I would be astounded, but since it's Juliann, it's just par for the course.

The only time reason RFM has become slightly less popular as a topic of discussion is because of the existence of THIS board. Doesn't this board have a right to be run as its owner chooses? If posters here want to discuss MAD, it is no different than MAD posters wanting to discuss THIS board. Except normally, on this board, people are upfront about WHO or WHAT they are discussing, whereas on MAD they play games with themselves and pretend they aren't discussing specific individuals.

I know that reality is often an unwelcome intruder in the MAD world, but here is a lesson in reality: if you create a board that allows critics and believers to dialog, and then openly engage in extremely biased moderating, then you are going to have a predictable result: former posters who are unhappy with the way you run your board, and they may just create another board in response to that. Shocking, isn't it? Who'da thunk it.
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Jersey Girl wrote:Well what does she mean it to be about? Wasn't the title something about the angry ex-mos sense of entitlement?

She talks about those countermos
She wants to step on all their toes
She lights the fire, then she shouts
Why countermos it's all about?

I do not like her shaking fists
I do not like it when she twists
I do not like this Juliann
I do not like it Sam I Am

Don't even get me started or I'll Suess ad nauseum.

Jersey Girl
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There once was a moderator from MAD,
Who thought dissing countermormons was rad!
Her incoherent rants were discussion stopping,
She’d be happier if pills she were popping,
I find her funny, and that makes me feel bad.
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beastie wrote:...And Juliann claims LDS posters just leave boards that don't allow them alone?

If it were anyone other than Juliann making an observation so wildly contradicted by abundant evidence, I would be astounded, but since it's Juliann, it's just par for the course.

The only time reason RFM has become slightly less popular as a topic of discussion is because of the existence of THIS board. Doesn't this board have a right to be run as its owner chooses? If posters here want to discuss MAD, it is no different than MAD posters wanting to discuss THIS board. Except normally, on this board, people are upfront about WHO or WHAT they are discussing, whereas on MAD they play games with themselves and pretend they aren't discussing specific individuals....


Stop trying to derail this thread by talking about other boards, Trixie, or I’m going to shut it down! Get back on topic, which is Juliann. She is so self-absorbed! Why does she always think it is about her?
It’s relatively easy to agree that only Homo sapiens can speak about things that don’t really exist, and believe six impossible things before breakfast. You could never convince a monkey to give you a banana by promising him limitless bananas after death in monkey heaven.

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Stop trying to derail this thread by talking about other boards, Trixie, or I’m going to shut it down! Get back on topic, which is Juliann. She is so self-absorbed! Why does she always think it is about her?



ROFL!
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The Nehor wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:Indeed. If you want to see this in action, I highly recommend that you read "The Mopologetic Hall of Fame: Part 5," which is archived on my blog.


Not exactly a fair entry Shades, he was showing how offensive he and others would find the Jewish diatribe and comparing it to others.


FYI, The Nehor: "Mister Scratch" and "Dr. Shades" are two different people.
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I had to laugh out loud, particularly after Analytic's satire, when I read this on the aforementioned entitlement thread:

Juliann had asked:
Why is it that when LDS are prevented from posting somewhere we just find other boards? Has anyone seen a board where LDS churn out multiple daily threads complaining about another place who wouldn't allow us to post?


http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... 5463&st=80

So John replied:



Well, maybe not daily threads, but sure, I've seen a lot of repeated complaints about a certain board that doesn't allow LDS responses.


To which the moderator scolded:

That isn't the topic, no one is disputing that, do not derail. ~ Mods


The lesson, to those of you not paying close attention:

If Juliann asks a question, you may not answer. That constitutes thread derailment.
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I have to say, MAD is providing me quite a bit of entertainment on this day when I have nothing else I want to do, and I'm sick of listening to the news.

Now Juliann chides runtu:

You have no idea what they think. We only have their words and their website and if we want to "ratchet up the rhetoric" on our board we will. Who are you to set up rules for us? What is the level of rhetoric on your board? Why are you not being their mommy? We are often compared to Jim Jones, Nazis, whatever...of course they don't mean that we are that particular person or group but they do mean we are identical to them. So you don't agree...we get it. Why do you have to put up 20 posts trying to make us stop saying it? We won't. Pick another project.



The irony is killing me! Juliann proclaims the right of the MAD board to be run how it wants to be run, including ratcheting up rhetoric if they want. Why does runtu have to try to make them stop saying it? "Pick another project".

This fact that this is the same person who just started another thread about exmormon "entitlement", in which she basically whined about exmormons talking about MAD on other boards is just too rich.

So let me get this straight. When Mormons talk about what other people are saying, on other boards, or in newspapers, or elsewhere, they are simply running their board as they see fit and no one has the right to tell them to stop.

But when exmormons talk about what Mormons are saying, on MAD or elsewhere, they are exhibiting "exmormon entitlement".

Juliann has surrounded herself with yes-men too long. Someone on her own "side" needs to tell her to get a grip and think before she spouts. Clue Number 1: it's not a good idea to manifest a certain behavior within hours of griping about others manifesting the exact same behavior.
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Post by _Jersey Girl »

beastie
Gee, all these poets and songsters on this site are giving me an inferiority complex!! ;)


Psssst...there's an R-rated version of that one available to subscribers only.

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