A question for "Light in the Darkness"

[_Tal Bachman]

Light in the Darkness

I think you are wrong about something. This post/thread is to find out whether you really are, or whether I am.

You are of the opinion that Mormon apologists are not wasting their talents defending Mormonism. Is that because you still think that Mormonism is all it claims to be, or for some other reason? If another reason, what reason?

Thanks,

Tal

P.S. By the way, that light bulb over there is my own favourite "light in the darkness" - it's the album cover of the Electric Light Orchestra's first record!

[_Polygamy Porter]

Hi Tal,

Nice to see you posting again.

I hope you find yourself *giggles*

[_barrelomonkeys]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZOHOrNITbU

I couldn't help myself. I can't stay away from here.


You got me shaking, got me running away
You got me crawling up to you every day

[_A Light in the Darkness]

I think you are wrong about something. This post/thread is to find out whether you really are, or whether I am.

You are of the opinion that Mormon apologists are not wasting their talents defending Mormonism.

While this is true, this is an incorrect reading of the thread you are referring to. In that thread, the thesis is that an atheist has no rational basis to say apologists, or anyone for that matter, is wasting their talents: meaning that they ought to use them in a different way. Mormons could be wasting their talents and this still would be true. For instance, in that thread the example being used by Beckwith is the young earth creationist Kurt Wise. I do feel he has squandered his gifts in an important sense as does Beckwith. However, I fail to see how an atheist can make a similar claim beyond reporting their own subjective feelings.

[_Tal Bachman]

Hi LITD

I just read your response closely. I have a follow-up question:

Through what means did the Holy Ghost let you know (or whatever word you would use) that Mormonism was all it claimed to be?

[_Gazelam]

C'mon Tal, are you really that ignorant?

[_Polygamy Porter]

C'mon Tal, are you really that ignorant?

You had a self induced emotional epiphany? a.k.a. warm fuzzy, a.k.a. Mo'gasm?

[_Gazelam]

C'mon Tal, are you really that ignorant?

You had a self induced emotional epiphany? a.k.a. warm fuzzy, a.k.a. Mo'gasm?

If your trying to ask me, in your pubescent parking lot of the seven-eleven kind of way, if I've had a witness of the Holy Ghost the answer is yes.

It was not self induced, it was a direct answer to prayer. Its somethign many others of had, and it was not mere emotion. It was revelation, reassurance, and most of all the testimony of God himself that the Church is true. The closest way to describe it is to say that I was filled with light.

Any feeling of the Holy Ghost that I've had aside from that instance was comparable to having a taste as opposed to having a meal. But the flavor is undeniable. There is nothing else like the Holy Ghost. Its unmistakable.

[_Polygamy Porter]

If your trying to ask me, in your pubescent parking lot of the seven-eleven kind of way, if I've had a witness of the Holy Ghost the answer is yes.

It was not self induced, it was a direct answer to prayer. Its somethign many others of had, and it was not mere emotion. It was revelation, reassurance, and most of all the testimony of God himself that the Church is true. The closest way to describe it is to say that I was filled with light.

Any feeling of the Holy Ghost that I've had aside from that instance was comparable to having a taste as opposed to having a meal. But the flavor is undeniable. There is nothing else like the Holy Ghost. Its unmistakable.

Thanks for sharing that Gaz.

What do you think of others that experience the EXACT same feelings?

But these feelings are do not lead them to momonism? Rather, it leads them to become a minister, or priest, nun, monk, holy roller, muslim, etc?

Do you feel that their experience is not valid because it did not lead them to the same place as yours?

[_Gazelam]

Do you feel that their experience is not valid because it did not lead them to the same place as yours?

The question you should be asking (Thank you Brother Millet) is "Is God a God of order, or a God of confusion?"

Should a person expect God to give various answers to people regarding what is true in regards to him? Is it possible for God to be both a multiarmed Hindu God and the Nordic one eyed deity of the Vikings? No.

Go dmakes himself known through his servants. All of the prophets have testified of Adam, who was made in the exact image of God. Adam was instructed by angels from heaven in how to reconsile the fallen with their Father in heaven, and if we are obedient to these things we may re-enter his presence. Notice I said re-enter, religion means to bind back to.

It is perfectly acceptable to judge one prophet by the words of another. There is a continuous and supportive testimony made available in the writings of a long line of prophets, all testifying of Jesus Christ and the work he either would do or did do. All also speak of the sanctifying power of the Holy Ghost.

Joseph Smith merely added his testimony to those that came before. His testimony strengthens theirs, and makes clear what they meant.

Stop kicking against the truth Porter. You only make yourself look like a fool.