LDS "world famous scholar" publishes book

[_harmony]

Peterson is not taken seriously in any way shape or form. This is made evident by the publisher carrying his book.

Actually, that was made evident by the disclaimer of his alma mater. How embarrassing, that.

[_Ray A]

Your logic is absurd and I bet nobody at BYU agrees with it. I remember talking to Dan about this during our email conversation concerning his respect and admiration for Pipes. He didn’t buy what you were saying then and I doubt he buys into it now.

According to a post on LDS Patriot, Dan gave his view of Pipes in an email to the owner of that site:

Dr. Peterson’s response to my e-mail above [regarding Pipes]:

I think highly of him. His father, Richard Pipes, was a famous Sovietologist at Harvard whose writing I admired. He himself earned a Ph.D. At Harvard with a dissertation on the Mamluks of medieval Egypt that became a fine book entitled, as I recall, Slaves on Horseback. He’s a legitimate, well-trained scholar, and very bright.

For the full email from Dan: http://ldspatriot.wordpress.com/2006/02 ... iel-pipes/

[_Mercury]

Peterson is not taken seriously in any way shape or form. This is made evident by the publisher carrying his book.

Actually, that was made evident by the disclaimer of his alma mater. How embarrassing, that.

Could you refresh our memory?

[_Coggins7]

High School: Graduated with 3.2 from Battlecreek High in Battlecreek MI, letters in Tetherball and Hopscotch, clubs: Underwater Basketweaving and was Mr. Battlecreek and unoffical bikini inspector at Spring Break: Battlecreek
College:
Undergraduate work in Monkeys and related primates at Uncle Joe's College and Tire Store
Graduate work from St. Brutus's Secure College for the Criminally Insane

MA in Taco Shellery with a thesis entitled Soft Shells: A Code to Flavor
PH D in Taco Appreciation with a dissertation entitled Hard Shells: Ambrosia of Lust

Finially, Scratch's curriculum vitae. Its about time.

[_Coggins7]

Alright, Coggins is a CIA operative who knows Scratch's background. Well no sense keeping everyone in the dark....here's Scratch's academic resume:

I don't work for the CIA. Actually, I'm a covert operative for Opus Dei, and my main job there is to make sure nobody ever tracks down Mary's Magdalene's ancestors, who are presently working at an obscure mini mart in Tuscon, Arizona called "Injun Joe's Gas n' Gifts".

[_harmony]

Could you refresh our memory?

From the opening post of this thread: "...not one department head of America's top five Near Eastern Studies programs had ever heard of "the world famous NES scholar" in question [Dr Peterson]- including the department head of the very program he got his Ph.D in! (UCLA)"

How embarrassing.

[_Pumplehoober]

It takes more time to go to the forums, create various monikers like pumplehoober and richardlionhart, just to make yourself look foolish. You must have been awfully upset when I didn't agree with anything you were spouting as RtLH. Just another one of your games that didn't play out the way you had hoped.

I don't have time for you tonight, but this was too much fun to pass up. I thought it had played out exactly as I had hoped. I was quoting you…

RtLH: This is actually happening. What do you think will happen when Moslims are elected to congress? Do you think they believe in democracy? Democracy and Islam are incompatible with one another on a fundamental level. Sharia law does not permit a democracy as we know it, and only an idiot would believe so. Sharia is not compatible with the American way of life. It never was, and never will be.

Kevin Graham: The main debate about democracy and Islam is that they are incompatible with one another on the fundamental level. Sharia law does not permit a democracy as we know it, and idiot apologists like John Esposito and Voll have made argued that terrorist movements are prime examples of democratic reform!

http://www.millennialstar.org/index.php ... ree_speech

I just pieced together different things you had said at various times from different sources. I'll find them all one day if you like.

[_Yong Xi]

Alright, Coggins is a CIA operative who knows Scratch's background. Well no sense keeping everyone in the dark....here's Scratch's academic resume:

I don't work for the CIA. Actually, I'm a covert operative for Opus Dei, and my main job there is to make sure nobody ever tracks down Mary's Magdalene's ancestors, who are presently working at an obscure mini mart in Tuscon, Arizona called "Injun Joe's Gas n' Gifts".

I am curious as to which you prefer, your cilice or the three hour block of meetings on Sunday?

[Guest]

I don't have time for you tonight, but this was too much fun to pass up. I thought it had played out exactly as I had hoped. I was quoting you…

You were hoping I would disagree with you and then point out who you really were? That’s an odd thing to hope for. After enduring through several of your ridiculous rants, I said:

Also, don't take RTLH serisouly. I suspect he is actually Tradd Button, who is actualy a Muslim who likes to pose as an anti-Muslim bigot. Some how he thinks this serves his cause but the fact that he has to create from his own imagination proves how well Muslims actually have it in America. Along with the six Imams who had to stage a scene to add justification to their bigot-baiting, this seems to be a popular hobby among Muslim web crawlers.

But that was your plan huh?

I suspect you were hoping I'd assume you were Calculus Crusader, since that was his moniker elsewhere. But you cannot hide being you no matter how hard you try.

But back to the point, democracy and Islam are incompatible so long as we consider sharia integral to what Islam is. The only arguments that suggest otherwise are usually comparing it to something we in the West wouldn't recognize as democracy anyway.

However, it doesn't logically follow that Muslim politicians must all be liars who value nothing about democracy. I am perfectly aware that the few million Muslims in America are not all fundamentalists; I doubt Muslim politicians could ever be fundamentalists to begin with. So your pedantic rant as RtLH was just another one of your performances that has nothing to do with me.

Not all Muslims wish for sharia to rule the land. Of course, they are not acting as traditional Muslims and they represent the minority fringe, but they do exist.

I just pieced together different things you had said at various times from different sources.

That's nice. Now can you refute any of it? This is what I have been waiting for... going on four years now.

Islam and democracy are incompatible.

This is not bigotry, this is simply the truth. Your problem is that you're trying to take a religion that is cherished by a billion people, and recreate it in an image to your liking. That's fine, but at least be honest about it and admit that what you describe is not traditional Islam. You're a reformist at heart, which is probably why you like reform-minded Muslims like Rhaman.

[_Coggins7]

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