More statistical lies from Dr. Spin Hinckley

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Coggins7 wrote:PP never provides evidence for his assertions. This is standard fare.


Then you and PP have common ground.

But at least PP states proven fact without citation occasionally versus your ability to state bull as truth that has been exhaustively verified, the textual "sigh" escaping from you every time someone calls you on "the facts" you further.

You have not shown the ability to debate without stating bold faced lies as fact and therefore you look like an even bigger ass repeatedly.
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Analytics
Jason is right; this number seems reasonable. Call 25,000 a year for 40 years and you get 1 million served.


My sense of the question was that Polygamy Porter was asking for a definition. Like Clinton's "It depends on what your definition of is is." Or was. Or might be. So here, what is the definition of "missionary"? Is it a person who spends significant time witnessing to others, teaching Mormon doctrine, and baptizing? Or are we to understand that the rubric "missionary" includes "Kids that come home early? How early? Out only for a day? An hour?"

The question seems to be focused, in other words, not on the number as a mere, flat quantity but on the number as a representation of effective missionary activity (proselytizing and baptizing) -- or of dedication within the missionaries themselves.

A million missionaries serving for two years each is impressive. But if 200,000 served in non-proselytizing roles, another 200,000 were local seventies and elders helping out, and another 100,000 of them quit in less than a year, the significance of "a million missionaries" is lessened, and the credibility of the man who posited "a million missionaries" (implying full-time, proselytizing missionaries), falls into disrepute.

I do not offer these numbers as actual or probably. They are just an example. I don't know the actual numbers. And that is what the problem is. Would the Church be so kind as to break these numbers down for us?
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Blixa wrote:Agreed Jason. But that makes this announcement seem odd to me. I mean, its not hard to beleive that such a number has been reached, even before now. It's kind of obvious, in fact. So why the announcement hoopla?


It's for the same reason McDonald's advertised for years how many burgers they'd sold. It's what corporations do.

It doesn't matter that the product is not good for you, could kill you if you have it exclusively, and has a clown for a mascot; if you advertise the numbers, it makes your product seem more attractive.

Same thing with McDonald's.
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Some Schmo wrote:It's for the same reason McDonald's advertised for years how many burgers they'd sold. It's what corporations do.

It doesn't matter that the product is not good for you, could kill you if you have it exclusively, and has a clown for a mascot; if you advertise the numbers, it makes your product seem more attractive.

Same thing with McDonald's.


I doubt President Hinckley made the announcement to impress those who dislike the Church.

It's a factoid that some members would be interested in and hence the announcement.

My guess is it includes all called Missionaries who went out. Why it's an estimate.
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The Nehor wrote:It's a factoid that some members would be interested in and hence the announcement.


If so he would have released it within the church. Instead, contrary to your assumption it came to use via press release, like something a corporation would do in order to enforce marketing.
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Paranoia, fear, hatred, mendacity, and intellectual emptiness.

So stimulating.
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Coggins7 wrote:Paranoia, fear, hatred, mendacity, and intellectual emptiness.

So stimulating.


Enough about the church then. Lets talk about vapid approaches to pseudo intellectual masturbation, ALA your autopsy of "reason".
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Some Schmo wrote:
Blixa wrote:Agreed Jason. But that makes this announcement seem odd to me. I mean, its not hard to beleive that such a number has been reached, even before now. It's kind of obvious, in fact. So why the announcement hoopla?


It's for the same reason McDonald's advertised for years how many burgers they'd sold. It's what corporations do.

It doesn't matter that the product is not good for you, could kill you if you have it exclusively, and has a clown for a mascot; if you advertise the numbers, it makes your product seem more attractive.

Same thing with McDonald's.
Nice Slamtoon idea.

A giant M (for moron.. errr I mean Mormon.. wait same thing..) and under that would be "Over one million liars and counting"
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Polygamy Porter wrote:Nice Slamtoon idea.

A giant M (for moron.. errr I mean Mormon.. wait same thing..) and under that would be "Over one million liars and counting"


I think that's been done, hitting on McTemples and "ten million duped"
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Mercury wrote:
The Nehor wrote:It's a factoid that some members would be interested in and hence the announcement.


If so he would have released it within the church. Instead, contrary to your assumption it came to use via press release, like something a corporation would do in order to enforce marketing.


It went to a paper that has a readership that is over 50% Mormon, hardly a press release. I checked the Dallas Morning News, wasn't in there.
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