Brethren (and sistren), adieu

[_Ray A]

We were all privy to it when the incident first occurred.

I need to get clear on this. Privy to what? When the incident occurred between Dan and Runtu on MADB? I thought you could not even view MADB? What happens at MADB is "filtered" here by the one and only Scratch, and what he says is gospel here.

Must be my bedtime.

[_The Dude]

Children, children, please take your seats. Now sing with me:

Aaaas - I - Have - Luuved - Youuu,
Luuuv - One - A-nuuuuth - errr,
nahhhh - nahhhh - nah - naaaah - naaaah
naaah - nah - nah -naaaah - naaaah

[_harmony]

We were all privy to it when the incident first occurred.

I need to get clear on this. Privy to what? When the incident occurred between Dan and Runtu on MADB? I thought you could not even view MADB? What happens at MADB is "filtered" here by the one and only Scratch, and what he says is gospel here.

Must be my bedtime.

Nothing much happens on MAD that gets past all of the participants here. We get threads by several mutual participants, especially when someone over there does that strikes the participant as particularly funny, dumb, or (rarely) intelligent. (The latter is rarely attributed to Juliann.)

[_Sam Harris]

Best wishes, Runtu. We'll miss you.

[_silentkid]

Good luck with everything, Runtu. You're posts are always enlightening and your parodies will never be bested.

[_Mercury]

By nice mercuraweenie. If it is Dan Peterson snottiness is not needed. I know it is hard for you to control yourself but try for once.

Huh? Why, because there is a special place you hold in your colon for him?

To me irrational individuals are equally worthless. I will not hold pseudoscientific individuals such as mr peterson in high regard just as I do not hold other historical revisionists in high regard.

[_Mercury]

And yet most of us have no trouble understanding him at all.

Take care, Runtu.

It's called bias.

See you in two weeks, Runtu.

I am glad you finally recognize one of the underlying problems to your behavior ray. Remember what you learned in 12 step and recognize the problem before it gets even worse.

[_truth dancer]

Best of luck always John!

Hope things go well for you... I've valued your insights and spirit!

Warmest wishes,

~dancer~

[_moksha]

Runtu, you take care. It would be nice to bump into you in Utah some day. I'm such an erratic driver.

[_dartagnan]

I've decided to start a hunger strike in protest of Daniel Peterson's malicious impugning of my character. In case you missed it, Dr. Peterson (apparently confusing me with his malevolent stalker, Mister Scratch), said that I "claimed" that someone on the FAIR/MAD board "feels positively about the Mountain Meadows Massacre."

He went on to question my integrity: "Unlikely as it is, my stalker could, for once, actually be telling the truth. I mean, it's not totally inconceivable . . . "

What I had said was simply this: "I recall someone on FAIR/MAD speaking quite positively about the MMM. Can't remember what the point was, but I thought it was appalling." That statement turned out to be true (I mean, it's not totally inconceivable, after all), as a statement from notoriously over the top DiggerDan was unearthed.

Whether or not it was you or scratch who said it, is Dan denying that some folks at FAIR/Mad have spoken positively about the MMM? I recall Diggerdan saying quite explicitly that murdering the women and children was the best thing for them. He got a tongue lashing from quite a few, except the die hard apologists like Pahoran and Slacktime, who tried to mitigate his comments. In the same thread another poster said we cannot judge the murderers at MM because given the same situation, we might have done the same thing. He essentially asserted that he would have probably killed women too if he were in that position. This poster is currently serving a mission… don’t recall his exact moniker but it begins with a C. I’ll dig this up later if anyone wants verification.


Runtu, in the immortal words of Bullet tooth Tony, "It's been emotional."

edit: found it: http://www.kevingraham.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13

What is the hang-up with killing women and children in this instance? I personally think if once all the men were dead killing the rest was the most humane thing to do. – Diggerdan Sep 5 2006, 07:10 AM

I am married with two young boys and I can honestly say that given those circumstances I would rather they join me in death than suffer through the alternative. - Diggerdan60 Sep 6 2006, 01:15 PM

[it is an] arrogant assumption [to think] that you would have done anything different. – cjcampbell Sep 6 2006, 03:59 AM