Brethren (and sistren), adieu

[Tator]

Here's the post in which DCP called runtu a malevolent stalker and liar (he likely confused runtu with scratch, all posters look alike over here)

http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... 3396&st=40

Daniel Peterson
Apr 27 2007, 02:13 PM

For what it's worth, my mendacious and malevolent stalker over at the Shades Obsession Board claims that at least somebody here feels positively about the Mountain Meadows Massacre.

I don't recall ever seeing anything here to that effect, but, of course, I could be mistaken. Unlikely as it is, my stalker could, for once, actually be telling the truth. I mean, it's not totally inconceivable . . .

Anyway, if such a massacre fan actually exists, I hope that he or she will come forward. Don't be shy! If you believe that the Mountain Meadows Massacre was a good thing, say so!

The fact is that runtu has always been a calm and fair poster. His behavior is usually exemplary. Daniel was mistaken on a couple of fronts - one, runtu isn't a stalker or a liar, and two, he was correct that comments that could be reasonably interpreted as "positive" about the actions of MMM were made. That is why runtu felt DCP owed him an apology, and he tried to bring DCP's mistake to his attention several times.

But most of the times runtu's referred to this event it was in a joking manner, so for any poster here to use this as an excuse to try and bang him over the head - particularly when he's been through a rough time lately by his own admission - is unfortunate, and more of a reflection of that poster (yes, Ray, you) than runtu.

(I think this is the thread Kevin quoted from:
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... opic=17610

[_Alter Idem]

Hey Runtu, I'll miss you on the boards, but I don't blame you for leaving. They do take a lot of time which could be better spent. I hope you enjoy Utah--it's a beautiful state and if you can get used to the extremes in weather, it's not so bad. Be careful on the roads--the drivers are aggressive and not careful here--you really have to drive defensively. And it's not an LDS or non-LDS thing--I think they just don't teach them proper road manners.

Anyway, Good luck and maybe we'll see you around:)

[_Blixa]

Here's the post in which DCP called runtu a malevolent stalker and liar (he likely confused runtu with scratch, all posters look alike over here)

http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... 3396&st=40

Daniel Peterson
Apr 27 2007, 02:13 PM

For what it's worth, my mendacious and malevolent stalker over at the Shades Obsession Board claims that at least somebody here feels positively about the Mountain Meadows Massacre.

I don't recall ever seeing anything here to that effect, but, of course, I could be mistaken. Unlikely as it is, my stalker could, for once, actually be telling the truth. I mean, it's not totally inconceivable . . .

Anyway, if such a massacre fan actually exists, I hope that he or she will come forward. Don't be shy! If you believe that the Mountain Meadows Massacre was a good thing, say so!

The fact is that runtu has always been a calm and fair poster. His behavior is usually exemplary. Daniel was mistaken on a couple of fronts - one, runtu isn't a stalker or a liar, and two, he was correct that comments that could be reasonably interpreted as "positive" about the actions of MMM were made. That is why runtu felt DCP owed him an apology, and he tried to bring DCP's mistake to his attention several times.

But most of the times runtu's referred to this event it was in a joking manner, so for any poster here to use this as an excuse to try and bang him over the head - particularly when he's been through a rough time lately by his own admission - is unfortunate, and more of a reflection of that poster (yes, Ray, you) than runtu.

(I think this is the thread Kevin quoted from:
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... opic=17610

Glad you tidied this up, beastie. Runtu has indeed been an exemplar of fair and rational posting.

[_KimberlyAnn]

I'll miss you on the board, friend.

I'm glad you got the new job in Utah and hope you're happy there.

Best to you, Runtu.

KA

[_Bond...James Bond]

Damnit I'm going to have to get a beeper so Shades can beep me if anything important happens on the board.

What the hell? Why did you have to take my Runtu? Take me, the sexy one!!!

O well......jump back in if you need to chew the fat runtu, or if you get those bootleg nude photos of Jessica Alba or something.

Cya my Texan brotha man :(

[_Ray A]

But most of the times runtu's referred to this event it was in a joking manner, so for any poster here to use this as an excuse to try and bang him over the head - particularly when he's been through a rough time lately by his own admission - is unfortunate, and more of a reflection of that poster (yes, Ray, you) than runtu.

I don't understand why he has to bring this up constantly. He virtually has some kind of obsession about getting an apology from DCP and has mentioned this several times on MADB very recently in threads where it was totally off the subject line, and this again gratuituous sling in this "farewell" thread. To me this is a very small matter in comparison to the gratuituous insults offered at DCP by almost ALL posters here. Shall I go through the index? Where were you beastie, when all of these insults offered? DCP has been accused of being a liar, dishonest, a deceiver, and slandered to kingdom come. So let me get this right. Runtu wants an apology for one comment about him? And the gang goes into battle mode for him?

Now, about face!! What if Runtu was falsely accused of smearing Quinn, and denied this was the case. Would anyone question him? Now if I remember correctly, Runtu has not exactly been kind to DCP, and has on occasion said some things which DCP could well call for an apology for. A search, I am sure, could easily show this. DCP cannot win, no matter what he does!! He cannot even get to first base. People have been saying he doesn't have the guts to post here, and now that he has, I doubt he'll be given a "fair go".

What a shame. Shades has always wanted high profile posters like DCP, but no one can blame DCP if he does not stay here any longer than Pahoran did.
There could be some very informative dialogue, but my educated guess is it just ain't going to happen.

[_Daniel Peterson]

The reference to my malevolent stalker definitely had "Mister Scratch" in view.

I have no reason to regard "Runtu" as a liar, and, so far as I can recall, didn't mean to refer to him.

[_Inconceivable]

Thanks for your insight, Runtu. Take care.

[Tator]

For heaven's sake, Ray, give it a rest. We know that you find us all morally destitute because we don't rush to DCP's defense every time he's attacked. We know that you believe all exmormons have the moral responsibility to police RfM.* We know that you believe we are encouraging future acts of violence against Mormons by choosing to ignore certain infantile behavior. We know this. We know this. You have told us over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. To this day, I think your apparent belief that certain infantile RfM posters are going to encourage waves of violence against LDS is irrational. So your repeating it over and over and over and over and over and over isn't convincing me, and I doubt it's convincing anyone, but it is making you look obsessed yourself.

You accuse others of obsessive behavior, yet you are one of the most obsessive posters I've ever met. You criticize others for their rude behavior when you indulge in it so frequently, you mocked Don for changing his mind about posting on FAIR, when you do the same thing yourself. This is a definite pattern.

Now you're using runtu to beat your same old drum which is really despicable, considering how hard he has always worked to be fair, calm, and reasonable, and considering what a hard time he's been through. You have no compassion to those on the "wrong" side, do you?

Now go ahead and launch into one of your vulgar attacks of me, but please, start a different thread to do so. At least have the dignity to leave this one alone, out of respect to runtu. And if you can't find any reason to respect him, then you really have a problem, and it likely has nothing to do with internet boards and more to do with your own judgment and personality.


*all posters here most certainly do not engage in gratuitous insulting of DCP. If you can prove otherwise with your index, do so, but start a new thread.

[_beastie]

The reference to my malevolent stalker definitely had "Mister Scratch" in view.

I have no reason to regard "Runtu" as a liar, and, so far as I can recall, didn't mean to refer to him.

So maybe what you meant to say was "Runtu, I'm sorry I was careless and called you a malevolent stalker and liar."