Mercury wrote:Wow, if I'm so wrong then it would be easy to kick me in the nuts. I clean your clock every time we butt heads, with you running off with your tail between your legs. Do you avtually believe peterson will stick around out in the wide world of actual debate? No, he will not. His visit is short unfortunately. I WANT him to stay and actually debate but sadly I do not see him actually engaging anyone here.
So Doc, prove me wrong.
Perhaps they should try that with the next round of presidential debates.
Obama can call hillary a d-bag Hillary can call obama a n#gger etc.
There comes a point in debate when the erring side just starts making more and more ludicrous statements, defending their beliefs with statements summed up as "because I want it to be true it is true". At that point value can be extracted by just mocking the other party.
My relationship to this board and ones like it has a great deal to do with just letting the other side know how I feel. Could one honestly have a constructive exchange with those engaged in holocaust denial or Mormon apologetics? Both are acts of historical revisionism. Both are acts in which the minority voice does not listen to reason. What good is debate with these individuals? They don't care about honest intellectual inquiry but instead are engaged in distorting others perceptions of history. Peterson is a douche bag because he is paid to convince those who would otherwise turn to actual historical evidence countering the Mormon world view. He is a shill that helps further enslave those who are intellectually minded.
Who knows, possibly dannyboy would have been relevant in his field were he not to have made himself out to fall easilly for unrealistic "research" and reaching conclusions that are not supported by the evidence.
He is fair game. I will not kiss his a$$. he is an embarrassment to academia.
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning
Mercury wrote:Could one honestly have a constructive exchange with those engaged in holocaust denial or Mormon apologetics? Both are acts of historical revisionism. Both are acts in which the minority voice does not listen to reason. What good is debate with these individuals? They don't care about honest intellectual inquiry but instead are engaged in distorting others perceptions of history.
I probably couldn't have a constructive exchange with them, since I believe they're kooks. But at the same time, I'm not going to a message board and calling them that. In fact, I see debating them as a complete waste of time, and so I don't do it.
WK: "Joseph Smith asserted that the Book of Mormon peoples were the original inhabitants of the americas"
Will Schryver: "No, he didn’t." 3/19/08
Still waiting for Will to back this up...
Mercury wrote: I clean your clock every time we butt heads, with you running off with your tail between your legs.
I have no illusions about angry exmo delusions!
Mercury wrote:Do you avtually believe peterson will stick around out in the wide world of actual debate? No, he will not. His visit is short unfortunately. I WANT him to stay and actually debate but sadly I do not see him actually engaging anyone here.
And why might that be, Merc? Anything to do with your Nobel Prize winning insults to Dan? Insults are okay to Mormons, but not to emos. However, I hope my sig. line is correct.
Mercury wrote:So Doc, prove me wrong.
The "doc" doesn't have to prove anything to you Merc.
Mercury wrote:Could one honestly have a constructive exchange with those engaged in holocaust denial or Mormon apologetics? Both are acts of historical revisionism. Both are acts in which the minority voice does not listen to reason. What good is debate with these individuals? They don't care about honest intellectual inquiry but instead are engaged in distorting others perceptions of history.
I probably couldn't have a constructive exchange with them, since I believe they're kooks. But at the same time, I'm not going to a message board and calling them that. In fact, I see debating them as a complete waste of time, and so I don't do it.
Then that is where you and I differ. I find it therapeutic to deride those who I once thought as saving my faith. I took their excuses to stay in the church and reluctantly swallowed them. If peterson and his ilk were not around I would have been out of the church sooner.
Shame on them for their apologetic excuse manufacturing. Shame on them for the justification of a madman. Shame on them for character assassination against Quinn.
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning
Mercury wrote:Then that is where you and I differ. I find it therapeutic to deride those who I once thought as saving my faith. I took their excuses to stay in the church and reluctantly swallowed them. If peterson and his ilk were not around I would have been out of the church sooner.
Shame on them for their apologetic excuse manufacturing. Shame on them for the justification of a madman. Shame on them for character assassination against Quinn.
That's fine. I think what people have been trying to point out is this:
If your goal is "constructive exchange", then you shouldn't call someone a d-bag.
If your goal is personal attacks (derision), then you shouldn't post them in the terrestrial forum.
WK: "Joseph Smith asserted that the Book of Mormon peoples were the original inhabitants of the americas"
Will Schryver: "No, he didn’t." 3/19/08
Still waiting for Will to back this up...
Mercury wrote:Shame on them for their apologetic excuse manufacturing. Shame on them for the justification of a madman. Shame on them for character assassination against Quinn.
Shame, shame, shame. Shame, shame, shame. Shame, shame, shame to "Peterson" and his "ilk". Who can argue with such convincing logic?
Ray A wrote: The "doc" doesn't have to prove anything to you Merc.
And why not? The burden of proof is on him. The best way to shut me up would be to prove me wrong. I'm not going to hold my breath on him stepping up to the plate.
In the end if he can prove that there were Israelites using steel swords prior to Europeans arriving in the americas I will apologise and never insult him ever again. hell, ill even down a six pack of fosters and sing "God Save The Queen".
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning
WK: "Joseph Smith asserted that the Book of Mormon peoples were the original inhabitants of the americas"
Will Schryver: "No, he didn’t." 3/19/08
Still waiting for Will to back this up...