asbestosman wrote:Mercury wrote:that's BS. The LDS corporation is not the CIA, FBI, etc although you believe them to be. The church does not have a right to do as they are doing
The church has the legal right to do that. Now while many will argue that it doesn't have the moral right to do so, I still maintain that significant financial freedom would be lost if the public watched the books thinking that they'd rather have the church spend more $$$ on welfare and education than on temples, publishing, and other methods of spreading the word an fulfilling the 3-fold mission.
They are in effect claiming that financial obfuscation is a part of their religion, something that is laughable and legally speaking is farcical.
I don't think that's what they're claiming at all. I think the claim is that disclosing finances will be a hinderment to some of their freedoms--something I'm sure even you'll agree with. It then follows that with less freedom to do with the funds as they see best because there will be more pressure to focus on other things hence a hinderment to their religious expression (less temples and other things you consider worthless).
I don't give a damn about what the hell they spend it on. At this point I do not contribute to the Mormon racket. They have been by to shake me down with kindness, pulling out the three big sucker shell games:
Temple Covenants
Eternal Families
the loss of a testiphony
These three things are paraded out among the exmo, showing truly the weapons the church uses at its core to blind and spite its fleeced flock.
In its entirety the LDS church does have lay clergy. Problem is, all the lay clergy brings in the money and the Mormon mafia get to decide who gets to spend it. A pittance goes to operational costs while the multi generational wealth behind the Mormon church is divided up amongst the small, exclusive clubhouse of the Mormon elite. Its right in front of your face carcinogen boy, pluck it and gain freedom from the shakedown you get every sunday telling you that those who pay the "god tax" so teh church will protect you. Get control of your life, and if you are a convert then get control back.
The point is that if you saw FOR A FINANCIAL FACT, something commonplace in every major church of this day you will find transparency. Its a wall at the bishops office and it does not yield. Hincley lies, literally and on recorded media. The Mormon corporation is about to lose its shirt in the mall hopefully and membership numbers are dwindling fast right about the time reliable information became highly available. At least jump ship man. Its the only way to retain your integrity.
I'm pulling for you, Jason and Nehor, though Nehors been reading too much Heinlein.