How did dating work for polygamist?

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_Blixa
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SatanWasSetUp wrote: It only seems weird because of "presentism."


hee hee hee
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LOL!!!!
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Seven wrote:
beastie wrote:Thanks, seven, that is EXACTLY what I was trying to remember, the reed-smoot hearings.


I can't find the reference for it yet so I edited that out of my post until I know for sure. I remember reading about one of the Prophets being questioned in court about the consent but it could have been during the Edmond Tucker hearings. I am reading through the Reed Smoot portions right now so I'll post it when I find the exact reference.


Here it is. I guess my memory is better than I thought.

http://members.cox.net/jameshistory/fact.html

The transcript from the Reed Smoot hearings quotes President Joseph F. Smith on the topic of consent, which adds insight:
Q: "Is it not true that ... if she refuses her consent her husband is exempt from the law which requires her consent?"
A: "Yes; he is exempt from the law which requires her consent. She is commanded to consent, but if she does not, then he is exempt from the requirement."
Q: "Then he is at liberty to proceed without her consent, under the law. In other words, her consent amounts to nothing?"
A: "It amounts to nothing but her consent" (1:201).
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_Blixa
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Post by _Blixa »

Thanks, Seven. That was a lovely read.
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_barrelomonkeys
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Post by _barrelomonkeys »

SatanWasSetUp wrote:It only seems weird because of "presentism."


So why were the early Saints persecuted?
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Post by _Seven »

truth dancer wrote:Hi Seven...

used to wonder about this when I was active in church. Knowing that if polygamy returned a husband would have been checking out the Beehives, MiaMaids and Laurels for his next victim.


I think the teachings of Jesus were quite clear... he that looketh upon another woman hath already committed adultery in his heart.

Yet you had all these LDS men looking around, checking out girls and women, looking for who they could get.

I guess Jesus was just sharing his opinion. ;-)

~dancer~


Hi Truth Dancer, :)

Great point. How is it possible for a man to court or fall in love with a future polygamist bride without breaking this commandment of Jesus?
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That which is wrong under one circumstance, may be, and often is, right under another." Joseph Smith
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Post by _SatanWasSetUp »

Seven wrote:
The transcript from the Reed Smoot hearings quotes President Joseph F. Smith on the topic of consent, which adds insight:
Q: "Is it not true that ... if she refuses her consent her husband is exempt from the law which requires her consent?"
A: "Yes; he is exempt from the law which requires her consent. She is commanded to consent, but if she does not, then he is exempt from the requirement."
Q: "Then he is at liberty to proceed without her consent, under the law. In other words, her consent amounts to nothing?"
A: "It amounts to nothing but her consent" (1:201).


What? It amounts to nothing but her consent? What does that mean? Can an apologist please translate this for us.
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Post by _SatanWasSetUp »

barrelomonkeys wrote:
SatanWasSetUp wrote:It only seems weird because of "presentism."


So why were the early Saints persecuted?


Satan.
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Post by _barrelomonkeys »

SatanWasSetUp wrote:
barrelomonkeys wrote:
SatanWasSetUp wrote:It only seems weird because of "presentism."


So why were the early Saints persecuted?


Satan.


The sarcasm was lost on me. :)
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Post by _harmony »

Seven wrote:
beastie wrote:Some women recorded negative feelings in their journal after seeing their husband dancing, flirting, and taking young girls out for carriage rides, so there must have been some form of courting going on. (I remember reading at least one account that mentioned something about an old man making a fool of himself....)


I can't even imagine how ridiculous that must have looked to see these old religous men flirting and courting
teenagers. Yuck.


And no viagra. I mean, just think about it for a few minutes. Things shrivel and droop as people age.
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