truth dancer wrote:The infant mortality rate was quite high... why not lower it? This would be nothing for the God of the universe.
Yes, God could simply cause the Mormon babies to be born with smaller heads and brains, since that's the most difficult part to pass the birth canal. My hunch is that smaller brains would correlate with increased dependence on god and his chosen leaders. This would seem to be a no-brainer.
"And yet another little spot is smoothed out of the echo chamber wall..." Bond
truth dancer wrote:The infant mortality rate was quite high... why not lower it? This would be nothing for the God of the universe.
Yes, God could simply cause the Mormon babies to be born with smaller heads and brains, since that's the most difficult part to pass the birth canal. My hunch is that smaller brains would correlate with increased dependence on god and his chosen leaders. This would seem to be a no-brainer.
And the Pun-Of-The-Day Award goes to...
The Dude!
*Hands over gift-certificate to Red Lobster*
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." ~Charles Bukowski
asbestosman wrote:I heard something about the "restitution/restoration of all things" (originally comes from Acts 3:21, but see D&C 86:10). The idea is that God had to restore some old principles in this time. I'm not sure I buy it though as I never heard of circumcision nor burnt offerings becoming mandatory again.
Just wait.
Yes, there have been GAs who stated animal sacrifices will once again be restored. What a lovely thought. :(
I thought Christ fulfilled the law of sacrifice so why would that be restored? We live the higher law.
Circumcision and burnt offerings were a ritual, not a principle/ordinance that is required for exaltation. Those were done in preperation for the Savior's sacrifice.
Restoring a principle means that it was lost during the apostacy. That was the basis for the formation of Mormonism. That is how we have LDS doctrine and ordinances. If polygamy/Celestial Marriage/sealings were corrupted and replaced with monogamy during the apostacy, then we would have seen the Prophets of the Book of Mormon living the principle at least in the very beginning.
Instead, God commanded Nephi and his brothers to practice monogamy in raising "righteous seed" unto Him.
"Happiness is the object and design of our existence... That which is wrong under one circumstance, may be, and often is, right under another." Joseph Smith
Seven wrote:Yes, there have been GAs who stated animal sacrifices will once again be restored.
Great, now Michael Vick can join.
"We of this Church do not rely on any man-made statement concerning the nature of Deity. Our knowledge comes directly from the personal experience of Joseph Smith." - Gordon B. Hinckley
"It's wrong to criticize leaders of the Mormon Church even if the criticism is true." - Dallin H. Oaks
in my opinion Joseph Smith restored polygamy so he could pattern himself after the Prophets of old, in his own natural desire for multiple sex partners. I have not found any evidence yet that the women Joseph taught Celestial marriage to, were doing it to raise righteous seed. The only person who to my knowledge received that teaching was Emma, after 132 was recorded. That revelation wasn't even given to the church until many years later. Was it around 1872 that it was added to the canon?
I also haven't been able to find evidence that the church used Jacob 2:30 as a justification for living polygamy when they were in direct violation of the Book of Mormon. You would think that if they were reading their scriptures it would have been mentioned in several sermons. Instead, we find sermons given to the women about the Patriarchal order, obedience and submission to man, and the requirement of living polygamy for exaltation. If anybody has references of "raising seed" doctrine being taught to the early polygamists, I am interested in any references that could be provided. Just curious when that became the popular justification for practicing "whoredoms" and "abominations."
Joseph despised monogamy. There are no indications whatsover that he struggled with his conscience over taking plural wives. In fact, he was quite passionate about changing monogamous marriage. He tried several times to introduce the idea to the Saints, possibly as early as 1831, but I can't recall exactly. The angel with the flaming sword story is ridiculous. If God was going to command you to do something immoral, wouldn't you expect Him to come down and command it Himself?
"Happiness is the object and design of our existence... That which is wrong under one circumstance, may be, and often is, right under another." Joseph Smith
And I've never understood the term "raising up seed." You don't raise seed, you plant it, or squirt it, you don't raise it up. And why does god call it seed? It's not really seed, it's more like fertilizer.
"We of this Church do not rely on any man-made statement concerning the nature of Deity. Our knowledge comes directly from the personal experience of Joseph Smith." - Gordon B. Hinckley
"It's wrong to criticize leaders of the Mormon Church even if the criticism is true." - Dallin H. Oaks
asbestosman wrote:I heard something about the "restitution/restoration of all things" (originally comes from Acts 3:21, but see D&C 86:10). The idea is that God had to restore some old principles in this time. I'm not sure I buy it though as I never heard of circumcision nor burnt offerings becoming mandatory again.
Just wait.
LOL
Perhaps then Nehor will finally get a woman when one is assigned to him!
Remember Neh, by then, you will take what they give you! Pray it is not a "sweet spirit".
If it works out for two years, they will assign another one to you..
KimberlyAnn wrote:Truth Dancer, I've always wondered, why, if raising seed were so important to God, he didn't make Adam more than one wife?
Well, he did in a round about way.
Adam had sex with Eve who gave birth to a daughter. When the daughter turned 12 or 14 then Adam had another wife.
Later when Eve's cast iron womb fell out and broke her toe, some of the later daughters would birth grand daughters to become his nth wife, then those bore great grand daughters and so on and so on and so on...
Adam probably had young virgins until the day he died or until his unit failed.